Le 2011-07-10 à 22:12, Ken Anderson a écrit :

> I remember Nibble!
> 
> Yes, Pascal, you are pretty young for the community at 35!
> 
> I'm sorry I couldn't make WOWODC this year - lets start planning the next one 
> so I can plan my family vacation around it :)

I'm tempted to do it on the same week-end (June 29-30, July 1) next year.

> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
> 
>> It's honestly pretty simple.
>> 
>> Apple never makes statements about future products, or their plan for 
>> existing products.  If you're holding your breath for that to happen, good 
>> luck!
>> 
>> The community continues to maintain / upgrade WO in a way that is far better 
>> than a corporation holding the reins.  Even for a currently sold commercial 
>> product, what guarantee is there that it will be updated?  Or Open Source 
>> projects that have little to no support when the champion has left it?
>> 
>> To me, just the fact that WebObjects has been around since 1996 (15 years!) 
>> means that it has more legs than any other tool I can think of.
>> 
>> YMMV
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Karl wrote:
>> 
>>> I don’t think that there is an issue about it disappearing.  The license 
>>> allows us to use what we have now indefinitely.
>>> 
>>> The issue is about moving forwards and modernizing...
>>> 
>>> Karl
>>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> How about the continued availability of WO.  People can SAY that Apple 
>>>> relies heavily on WO and thus it won't go away, but again it just feels 
>>>> more secure knowing that it is officially true, and that WO will always be 
>>>> kept out there so that I can put away my doubts that it will suddenly 
>>>> disappear.  I'd just feel safer while we're all building on this platform 
>>>> that it won't be pulled from under us.
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> there has been official word-- you just gotta go back ten years and ask 
>>>>> ernie prabhakar or something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> seriously, the official word is that WO is and shall remain WO and will 
>>>>> never be open sourced or whatever.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I opine as well, but that's the way it is and shall be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who, if anyone, represents Apple on this mailing list?  When it comes to 
>>>>>> questions of open-sourcing WO or the availability of WO, the answer 
>>>>>> should be posted by an Apple official rep. in this mailing list.  Anyone 
>>>>>> can opine, but I think the group benefits greatly when an official word 
>>>>>> is heard -- second best to that is an "insider", even if not officially 
>>>>>> charged by Apple to represent in the list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>> 
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