OK, so just to be clear.

Name the framework: MooTools
And name the components: MTAjaxUpdateLink etc...

I'll also take another look at jQuery.  It seems like the documentation has 
changed since my last attempt.  If I start writing a new one what should I use 
as the naming convention?

Aloha,

Johnny Miller
Kahalawai Media Corp.
www.kahalawai.com



On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> 
> Le 2012-02-08 à 15:19, Johnny Miller a écrit :
> 
>> I understand.  And I also looked at writing a jQuery Ajax framework but I 
>> didn't get far into it before I realized it wasn't going to be as easy as 
>> the MooTools one.  I think the issues were the documentation and the way the 
>> Ajax object worked.  Although, I'm sure a better man than me would have no 
>> problems.
>> 
>> I think the reason people like to mix Ajax Framework and jQuery is because 
>> there are a lot of plugins for jQuery.  This is also true for MooTools 
>> (http://mootools.net/forge/).  So for me it was the best of both worlds.  I 
>> was able to pretty easily copy the functionality out of Ajax Framework that 
>> I needed and then write or use existing plugins.  With the benefit being 
>> faster page load times because the user doesn't have to download two JS 
>> libraries.
>> 
>> Anyway, I would be happy donate the MooTools Ajax framework.  Should I 
>> rename it to ERSomething?  Should I rename the components as well?  I just 
>> used the same names as Ajax Framework i.e. AjaxUpdateContainer - should I 
>> rename them to some prefix+component name?
> 
> Good question. I guess it would be better to have different names in case 
> people want to mix Prototype and MooTools together. MT good be a good prefix 
> for components and Java classes, and the framework could be MooTools.
> 
>> Johnny Miller
>> Kahalawai Media Corp.
>> www.kahalawai.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>> 
>>> Personally, I would go with Dojo since it's really made for data-type apps 
>>> (but maybe Dojo is more for REST contexts, not for contexts like the 
>>> current Ajax framework) :-) But the community is asking for jQuery (and 
>>> almost half of the community is already using it, does everyone have their 
>>> own jQuery framework?).
>>> 
>>> But yeah, if you want to contribute your MooTools framework, I think it 
>>> would be great :-)
>>> 
>>>> Hi Pascal,
>>>> 
>>>> I think everyone should give one more pass at MooTools.  I know that 
>>>> jQuery is very popular right now but MooTools is designed from an object 
>>>> oriented perspective.  So for people like us, who are already using Java, 
>>>> MooTools just feels more natural.  If you look at the MooTools 
>>>> documentation (http://mootools.net/docs/core) it shows you how to easily 
>>>> create classes, use inheritance, implement composition, extend with 
>>>> categories et al...  Where as jQuery is kind of like a giant collection of 
>>>> scripts that is very useful for people who are more familiar with that 
>>>> style of programming.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is a very good article (granted biased) article that explains the 
>>>> difference between the two: http://jqueryvsmootools.com/
>>>> 
>>>> My two cents,
>>>> 
>>>> Johnny Miller
>>>> Kahalawai Media Corp.
>>>> www.kahalawai.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Looking at the comments and results from the survey, it look like the 
>>>>> biggest priority for 2012 is to have a jQuery framework for WO (for 
>>>>> stateful apps, I think the jQuery framework from Ravi Mendis is stateless 
>>>>> only).
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, I have to ask: who can work on a jQuery framework? I'm asking because 
>>>>> I need to know if we can finance this task. Of if you already have a 
>>>>> jQuery framework that you made, can you share it with the community? We 
>>>>> can even "buy it" if we need to.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
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