Anyone used it? Does it actually work?

Michael

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On Jul 11, 2012, at 19:10, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf 
<lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de> wrote:

> 
> Am 11.07.2012 um 23:03 schrieb Daniel Beatty:
> 
>> Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen,
>> I tend to agree with Chuck on the notion that this could be a costly 
>> marriage without some kind of stability assurance.  My recommendation would 
>> be to have Cayenne be standardized so that at least there is both proper 
>> documentation and be able to say what Cayenne is intended to be (EOF like or 
>> otherwise).  
>> 
>> I did some work on the subject whether WO/EOF is still king of the ORMs for 
>> my dissertation qualifiers in November of 2011.  I found that while there is 
>> no notion of a standardized ORM out there, EOF has a de facto standard due 
>> to its age and open source varieties in both Objective-C and Java forms.    
>> I can see why Apple has been reluctant to take it to a standards body.  
>> Namely, why teach the whole industry how to build something that makes your 
>> company so successful.  None the less, there are enough of us that could 
>> easily reverse engineer EOF along with Cayenne to help formalize such a 
>> standard with say the Open Grid Forum (OGF).  
>> 
>> Of course, there is probably nothing that can be done about the language of 
>> choice.  According to the TIOBE index, the three most popular languages as 
>> far as applications built by them are in order C, Java, and Objective-C.    
>> Popularity does not necessarily give us good languages from an academic 
>> point of view, but there are some blessings to be had from those top three.  
>>   Of course, Objective-C did rise this last month to surpass C++, C#, PHP, 
>> and Visual Basic.   What does Chuck say if people are using those languages, 
>> of their own free will? 
> 
> Speaking of Objective-C: There's an EOF and a WebObjects clone in GNUstep 
> under the LGPL:
> 
> 
> EOF-Clone (EOF 4.5 IIRC):
> 
> http://www.gnustep.org/experience/GDL2.html
> 
> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gdl2/trunk/
> 
> 
> WebObjects-Clone:
> 
> http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstepWeb
> 
> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gsweb/trunk/
> 
> 
> Wouldn't that be an alternative nowadays that ObjC has ARC?
> 
> http://clang.llvm.org/docs/AutomaticReferenceCounting.html
> 
> 
>> 
>> V/R,
> 
> cheers,
> 
>       Lars
> 
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