I think Hugi also use it.

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Le 2012-07-11 à 20:24, "Chuck Hill" <ch...@global-village.net> a écrit :

> Apparently
> 
> http://cayenne.apache.org/success-stories.html
> 
> 
> On 2012-07-11, at 5:21 PM, Michael Kondratov wrote:
> 
>> Anyone used it? Does it actually work?
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2012, at 19:10, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf 
>> <lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 11.07.2012 um 23:03 schrieb Daniel Beatty:
>>> 
>>>> Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>>> I tend to agree with Chuck on the notion that this could be a costly 
>>>> marriage without some kind of stability assurance.  My recommendation 
>>>> would be to have Cayenne be standardized so that at least there is both 
>>>> proper documentation and be able to say what Cayenne is intended to be 
>>>> (EOF like or otherwise).  
>>>> 
>>>> I did some work on the subject whether WO/EOF is still king of the ORMs 
>>>> for my dissertation qualifiers in November of 2011.  I found that while 
>>>> there is no notion of a standardized ORM out there, EOF has a de facto 
>>>> standard due to its age and open source varieties in both Objective-C and 
>>>> Java forms.    I can see why Apple has been reluctant to take it to a 
>>>> standards body.  Namely, why teach the whole industry how to build 
>>>> something that makes your company so successful.  None the less, there are 
>>>> enough of us that could easily reverse engineer EOF along with Cayenne to 
>>>> help formalize such a standard with say the Open Grid Forum (OGF).  
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, there is probably nothing that can be done about the language 
>>>> of choice.  According to the TIOBE index, the three most popular languages 
>>>> as far as applications built by them are in order C, Java, and 
>>>> Objective-C.    Popularity does not necessarily give us good languages 
>>>> from an academic point of view, but there are some blessings to be had 
>>>> from those top three.    Of course, Objective-C did rise this last month 
>>>> to surpass C++, C#, PHP, and Visual Basic.   What does Chuck say if people 
>>>> are using those languages, of their own free will? 
>>> 

>>> Speaking of Objective-C: There's an EOF and a WebObjects clone in GNUstep 
>>> under the LGPL:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> EOF-Clone (EOF 4.5 IIRC):
>>> 
>>> http://www.gnustep.org/experience/GDL2.html
>>> 
>>> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gdl2/trunk/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> WebObjects-Clone:
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstepWeb
>>> 
>>> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gsweb/trunk/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Wouldn't that be an alternative nowadays that ObjC has ARC?
>>> 
>>> http://clang.llvm.org/docs/AutomaticReferenceCounting.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> V/R,
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> 
>>>    Lars
>>> 
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