I think Hugi also use it. Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 2012-07-11 à 20:24, "Chuck Hill" <ch...@global-village.net> a écrit : > Apparently > > http://cayenne.apache.org/success-stories.html > > > On 2012-07-11, at 5:21 PM, Michael Kondratov wrote: > >> Anyone used it? Does it actually work? >> >> Michael >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 11, 2012, at 19:10, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf >> <lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de> wrote: >> >>> >>> Am 11.07.2012 um 23:03 schrieb Daniel Beatty: >>> >>>> Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen, >>>> I tend to agree with Chuck on the notion that this could be a costly >>>> marriage without some kind of stability assurance. My recommendation >>>> would be to have Cayenne be standardized so that at least there is both >>>> proper documentation and be able to say what Cayenne is intended to be >>>> (EOF like or otherwise). >>>> >>>> I did some work on the subject whether WO/EOF is still king of the ORMs >>>> for my dissertation qualifiers in November of 2011. I found that while >>>> there is no notion of a standardized ORM out there, EOF has a de facto >>>> standard due to its age and open source varieties in both Objective-C and >>>> Java forms. I can see why Apple has been reluctant to take it to a >>>> standards body. Namely, why teach the whole industry how to build >>>> something that makes your company so successful. None the less, there are >>>> enough of us that could easily reverse engineer EOF along with Cayenne to >>>> help formalize such a standard with say the Open Grid Forum (OGF). >>>> >>>> Of course, there is probably nothing that can be done about the language >>>> of choice. According to the TIOBE index, the three most popular languages >>>> as far as applications built by them are in order C, Java, and >>>> Objective-C. Popularity does not necessarily give us good languages >>>> from an academic point of view, but there are some blessings to be had >>>> from those top three. Of course, Objective-C did rise this last month >>>> to surpass C++, C#, PHP, and Visual Basic. What does Chuck say if people >>>> are using those languages, of their own free will? >>> >>> Speaking of Objective-C: There's an EOF and a WebObjects clone in GNUstep >>> under the LGPL: >>> >>> >>> EOF-Clone (EOF 4.5 IIRC): >>> >>> http://www.gnustep.org/experience/GDL2.html >>> >>> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gdl2/trunk/ >>> >>> >>> WebObjects-Clone: >>> >>> http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstepWeb >>> >>> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gsweb/trunk/ >>> >>> >>> Wouldn't that be an alternative nowadays that ObjC has ARC? >>> >>> http://clang.llvm.org/docs/AutomaticReferenceCounting.html >>> >>> >>>> >>>> V/R, >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Lars >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/michael%40aspireauctions.com >>> >>> This email sent to mich...@aspireauctions.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net >> >> This email sent to ch...@global-village.net > > -- > Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development > > Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall > knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. > http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca > > This email sent to prob...@macti.ca _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com