On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 2013-02-07, at 12:05 PM, Johnny Miller wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> re: JQuery. I'm pretty bummed I worked on the MooTools framework instead of >> a JQuery one. Obviously, much more people are interested in JQuery. I keep >> thinking I'm going to start one but I've sort of made up my mind to limp >> through 2013 using MooTools and then switch over to something like EmberJS >> in 2014. If you haven't looked at EmberJS it is a lot like WO in that you >> define a model and then it handles the database updates (through a REST >> interface). One thing I would like to see is that we start using the >> template design pattern for the Ajax framework. A lot of the components >> don't need to be totally rewritten - you just need to override >> appendToResponse to format the HTML the right way for the JS framework. But >> you can't subclass the original component because it calls super in >> appendToResponse. So if appendToResponse called a method like fooBar and >> then when you subclass the component all you need to do is override fooBar >> and you don't have to work about the other methods like >> invokeAction/handleRequest etc... I basically ended up doing a bunch of >> copying and pasting but if something got improved in the original there is >> no guarantee it made it's way into the MooTools version. > > Anjo put me onto this one, it looks pretty interesting: http://angularjs.org/ I've checked that one out too. It seems really easy to use. I'm kind of torn between which of the ones that makes the most sense for me. I'm planning on doing a wiki article on how to do the TODOS app with WO as a backend for both when my schedule quiets down. > >> re: IDE - I wonder how much it would cost to get JetBrains or a JetBrain's >> plugin developer to create a WebObjects plugin? Having used their >> JavaScript editor it's become pretty obvious to me that they make a much >> better product. > > The Component Editor and Entity Modeler might be a lot of work! They do have Tapesty support built into the IDE. Which makes me think that they already would have a good idea on how to do it. > Chuck > > >>> >>> - We need a jQuery framework. According to the surveys, members of the >>> community use jQuery almost as much as the Ajax framework from Wonder. In >>> fact, I'm wondering how you use it now, in Direct Actions? Just for >>> effects? If you already have a jQuery framework that you would like to give >>> to the community, we can work it out. >>> >>> - Better integration between WO and iOS (and Android). ERSync is a start, >>> and I was thinking maybe we could make a tool that reads a CoreData model, >>> convert it to a EOModel and automatically build REST services for the >>> model. >>> >>> - A "Project Wonder Cookbook". That book would contains, two pages max, >>> solutions to common problems and questions about Project Wonder. >>> >>> - Getting more people to understand and work on WOLips. >>> >>> - A easy-to-install development environment, that would install not only >>> WOLips and Eclipse, but also the core WO frameworks and Project Wonder. >>> >>> - A easy to use deployment service. Having helped many people with >>> deployment issues, it looks like deployment is still an issue. >>> >>> - Redesign of wocommunity.org. >>> >>> - Looking at how we can replace parts of WO with open source parts. The >>> Cayenne training day at WOWODC 2013 is the first step toward that goal. >>> >>> How are we going to finance this? We will change how the membership works. >>> We will have the following options: >>> >>> - $50 for regular membership. This $50 will be for paying recurrent >>> charges, like the hosting fees for wocommunity.org, and to pay for deposits >>> related to WOWODC. You still get early access to WOWODC recordings. >>> >>> - $300 for Bronze Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on >>> wocommunity.org for 6 months (on rotation with other sponsors). >>> >>> - $750 for Silver Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on >>> wocommunity.org for 12 months (on rotation with other sponsors) and your >>> logo on the WOWODC site. >>> >>> - $1500 for Gold Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on >>> wocommunity.org for 12 months (no rotation) and your logo on the WOWODC >>> site. You also get one WOWODC 2013 ticket. >>> >>> For bigger tasks, like the jQuery framework and the Project Wonder >>> Cookbook, we will use Kickstarter or a similar system to raise money to do >>> it, and if we don't raise enough cash, the project simply dies. >>> >>> Comments about this? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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