Le 2013-02-07 à 15:05, Johnny Miller <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
> re: JQuery.  I'm pretty bummed I worked on the MooTools framework instead of 
> a JQuery one.  Obviously, much more people are interested in JQuery.  I keep 
> thinking I'm going to start one but I've sort of made up my mind to limp 
> through 2013 using MooTools and then switch over to something like EmberJS in 
> 2014.  If you haven't looked at EmberJS it is a lot like WO in that you 
> define a model and then it handles the database updates (through a REST 
> interface).  

Dojo has that too, and it doesn't look like that jQuery have that, or at least 
it's not as "easy" as Dojo or EmberJS.

We will have a ERRest lab at WOWODC and I think we should try to connect many 
client-side JS, iOS and Android frameworks with ERRest to see if we can improve 
ERRest to support a lot of REST clients.

> One thing I would like to see is that we start using the template design 
> pattern for the Ajax framework.  A lot of the components don't need to be 
> totally rewritten - you just need to override appendToResponse to format the 
> HTML the right way for the JS framework.  But you can't subclass the original 
> component because it calls super in appendToResponse.  So if appendToResponse 
> called a method like fooBar and then when you subclass the component all you 
> need to do is override fooBar and you don't have to work about the other 
> methods like invokeAction/handleRequest etc...  I basically ended up doing a 
> bunch of copying and pasting but if something got improved in the original 
> there is no guarantee it made it's way into the MooTools version.
> 
> re: IDE - I wonder how much it would cost to get JetBrains or a JetBrain's 
> plugin developer to create a WebObjects plugin?  Having used their JavaScript 
> editor it's become pretty obvious to me that they make a much better product.
> 
> my 2 cents,
> 
> Johnny
> 
>> 
>> - We need a jQuery framework. According to the surveys, members of the 
>> community use jQuery almost as much as the Ajax framework from Wonder. In 
>> fact, I'm wondering how you use it now, in Direct Actions? Just for effects? 
>> If you already have a jQuery framework that you would like to give to the 
>> community, we can work it out.
>> 
>> - Better integration between WO and iOS (and Android). ERSync is a start, 
>> and I was thinking maybe we could make a tool that reads a CoreData model, 
>> convert it to a EOModel and automatically build REST services for the model. 
>> 
>> - A "Project Wonder Cookbook". That book would contains, two pages max, 
>> solutions to common problems and questions about Project Wonder.
>> 
>> - Getting more people to understand and work on WOLips.
>> 
>> - A easy-to-install development environment, that would install not only 
>> WOLips and Eclipse, but also the core WO frameworks and Project Wonder.
>> 
>> - A easy to use deployment service. Having helped many people with 
>> deployment issues, it looks like deployment is still an issue. 
>> 
>> - Redesign of wocommunity.org. 
>> 
>> - Looking at how we can replace parts of WO with open source parts. The 
>> Cayenne training day at WOWODC 2013 is the first step toward that goal.
>> 
>> How are we going to finance this? We will change how the membership works. 
>> We will have the following options:
>> 
>> - $50 for regular membership. This $50 will be for paying recurrent charges, 
>> like the hosting fees for wocommunity.org, and to pay for deposits related 
>> to WOWODC. You still get early access to WOWODC recordings.
>> 
>> - $300 for Bronze Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on 
>> wocommunity.org for 6 months (on rotation with other sponsors).
>> 
>> - $750 for Silver Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on 
>> wocommunity.org for 12 months (on rotation with other sponsors) and your 
>> logo on the WOWODC site.
>> 
>> - $1500 for Gold Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on 
>> wocommunity.org for 12 months (no rotation) and your logo on the WOWODC 
>> site. You also get one WOWODC 2013 ticket.
>> 
>> For bigger tasks, like the jQuery framework and the Project Wonder Cookbook, 
>> we will use Kickstarter or a similar system to raise money to do it, and if 
>> we don't raise enough cash, the project simply dies.
>> 
>> Comments about this?
>> 
>> 
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