On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Dan Beatty <daniel.bea...@navy.mil> wrote:

> Hi Jesse,
> To be fair, there was such a project right before I graduated from Texas Tech 
> University with my Ph.D..  I think it can be resurrected.  It is my hope that 
> I can do it with my current employer, with the appropriate agreements, etc.  
> 
> The goal I recommend for such a capability is to make the underlying 
> synchronization capability  of the iOS and ERSync a kind of standard.  I 
> realize that opens up a set of boxes, good or bad.  Although, I think Wonder 
> still has the advantage by being more efficient than the other framework 
> communities.  The other advantage it gives us is a hedge for the day that 
> either Apple or Oracle decide to show us some trouble by killing products.  
> 
> While, Wonder protects us if Apple were to kill WebObjects, if Oracle kills 
> Java what do we do?

Oracle killing Java? ..... reminds me of this Cobol joke:
        http://stackoverflow.com/a/244775/772974



>   Oracle has had some bad press lately of their management of the SDK, most 
> of which happened for Applets and WebStart.  They could proverbially throw 
> the baby out with the bath water.  I hope that we have enough hedges so that 
> neither outfit can create such mischief for so many developers.
> 
> Just an opinion, but I hope that I can resurrect not only the project but 
> produce it so that the community may benefit.
> 
> V/R,
> 
> Daniel Beatty, Ph.D.
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> On 4/19/13 11:09 AM, "Jesse Tayler" <jtay...@oeinc.com> wrote:
> 
> > ERSync is THE design for sync'ing up multiple devices with a remote ERRest 
> > service provided by WO. ERSync has been in WOnder two or more years, but 
> > because nobody has a working example of an iOS client, nobody has ever been 
> > able to make use of it. Most especially me. That was my one thing from last 
> > year and I failed to get it working. This year? I will leave with ERRest 
> > understood! who's with me! On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:04 PM, James Cicenia 
> > <ja...@jimijon.com> wrote: > > Is ERSync the same as: > > iOS Applications 
> > with WebObjects REST Servers > > ? > > James > > On Apr 19, 2013, at 11:55 
> > AM, Jesse Tayler <jtay...@oeinc.com> wrote: > >> >> just point me to the 
> > part about ERSync! >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 19, 2013, at 12:53 PM, 
> > prob...@macti.ca wrote: >> >>> Check the schedule, we have plans for 
> > that. >>> >>> Envoyé de mon iPhone >>> >>> Le 2013-04-19 à 12:06, "Jesse 
> > Tayler" <jtay...@oeinc.com> a écrit : >>> >>>> >>>> Speaking of WOWODC 
> > - >>>> >>>> I would love to see folks setup up some ad-hok bring your own 
> > laptop and build stuff sessions - >>>> >>>> We have great presentations, 
> > but 
> > people also want to get down to work! >>>> >>>> Ask some questions, show 
> > off 
> > some things you've learned -- >>>> >>>> This is one of those work-sessions 
> > that I'd love to ask if Martin or Hugi or whoever else might help run a bit 
> > of. >>>> >>>> Just set aside some time during the show and organize the 
> > idea 
> > of a few work-sessions. >>>> >>>> Anyone else like to see some of that this 
> > year? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Martin B 
> > <syrinx2...@msn.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Hugi, >>>>> >>>>> I have to agree 
> > with you about WO not being maven friendly, but with a few tweaks and minor 
> > adjustments it's definitely possible.  I've migrated a bunch of old WO 
> > applications that were running on ant successfully.  The only problem I 
> > still 
> > have to solve is Eclipse debugging with Maven, but that's more like 
> > M2Eclipse 
> > issue. >>>>> >>>>> That being said, if you need help I will be at WOWODC in 
> > a 
> > few months, maybe I could share some tricks with you (who whoever would be 
> > interested). >>>>> >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: Creating a WO 
> > Maven project >>>>> > From: h...@karlmenn.is >>>>> > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 
> > 18:46:00 +0000 >>>>> > To: list...@dakri.com >>>>> > CC: 
> > webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >>>>> > >>>>> > FWIW I use Maven (and more 
> > recently, Gradle) for everything except WO. WO hates Maven and the more 
> > influential WO-folks hate Maven too, so currently it's just easier to use 
> > Ant. >>>>> > >>>>> > - hugi >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 18.4.2013, 
> > at 17:02, Faizel Dakri <list...@dakri.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > I 
> > believe 
> > the Wonder projects have customized pom.xml files that specify the 
> > sourceDirectory explicitly. But this is sort of going against the maven 
> > standard. There was an old page on the wiki that touched on this: >>>>> > > 
> > >>>>> > > 
> > http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Maven+Kicking+the+tyres+with
> > out+changing+your+project+structure >>>>> > > >>>>> > > F >>>>> > > >>>>> > 
> > > On 2013-Apr-18, at 11:25 AM, Pascal Robert <prob...@macti.ca> wrote: 
> > > >>>>> > 
> > > >>>>> > >> So, no way to have fluffy bunny with Maven? How it's working 
> > > >>>>> > >> for 
> > Wonder then? >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>> The documentation needs……(drum 
> > roll)…. >>>>> > >>> updating… >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> Use the command line 
> > (make an alias, you won't remember it) : >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> mvn 
> > archetype:generate -DarchetypeCatalog=local >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> This 
> > assumes you have the catalog archetype-catalog.xml in ~/.m2 >>>>> > >>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > > >>> If so you see: >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> [INFO] No archetype defined. 
> > Using maven-archetype-quickstart 
> > (org.apache.maven.archetypes:maven-archetype-quickstart:1.0) >>>>> > >>> 
> > Choose archetype: >>>>> > >>> 1: local -> 
> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:erxapplication-archetype (Wonder 
> > Application 
> > Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 2: local -> 
> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:erxapplication-d2w-archetype (Wonder D2W 
> > Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 3: local -> 
> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:erxapplication-servlet-archetype (Wonder 
> > Servlet Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 4: local -> 
> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:partial-woapplication-servlet-archetype 
> > (Partial WebObjects Servlet Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 5: local -> 
> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:woapplication-archetype (WebObjects 
> > Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 6: local -> 
> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:woapplication-servlet-archetype 
> > (WebObjects 
> > Servlet Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 7: local -> 
> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:woframework-archetype (WebObjects 
> > Framework 
> > Archetype) >>>>> > >>> Choose a number or apply filter (format: 
> > [groupId:]artifactId, case sensitive contains): : >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> 
> > >>>>> > >>> Pick a number, and an application is created--no eclipse! >>>>> 
> > >>>>> > >>> > 
> > >>> >>>>> > >>> Now import it into eclipse. But is maven layout, not fluffy 
> > bunny. You can override the standard locations src/, but then you are 
> > deviating from the uber pom. You must specify where the sources are. >>>>> 
> > > 
> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Pascal Robert 
> > wrote: >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>>> Ok, so I'm trying to drink the Maven 
> > koolaid, 
> > but you are not helping. Somes pages about Maven on the wiki talks about 
> > creating projects by command line, so about using archetypes in WOLips, but 
> > those archetypes are not in WOLips. >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> So, what are 
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