Bastian:

I appreciate your email and your opinion. Eclipse 3.8 and 4.2 are both part of 
the Juno release. I found through this process that the information about 
Eclipse 3.8 is all over the map - there are quite a few different 
understandings out there about what 3.8 is - exactly. You'll notice that 3.8 is 
not listed on your link at all. As for updates, yes, 3.8 updates should come 
from the Juno repository.

Here is what eclipse.org has to say on the topic:

http://projects.eclipse.org/releases/juno

The juno release includes these project sub-entries:

Eclipse Project 3.8.0   +0
Eclipse Project 4.2.0   +0

You'll also notice that many of the major Eclipse sub-projects are at version 
3.8 - like Equinox. The 4.2 release is a significant new feature release -  
built on the foundational changes that are also in 3.8.

This stackoverflow question has some quality answers about this topic.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6997190/what-the-difference-between-eclipse-3-7-3-8-and-4-2

respectfully,

Tim
UCLA GSE&IS

On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Bastian Triller <bastian.tril...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Eclipse 3.8.2 != Eclipse Juno [1]
> 
> [1]: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_%28software%29#Releases>
> 
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:07:05AM -0700, Tim Worman wrote:
>> All:
>> 
>> I forked and updated David LeBer's go_wolips script (which was a fork of 
>> Mike Schrag's original). My fork lives here:
>> 
>> https://gist.github.com/timsquared/5454092
>> 
>> It has been updated to download Eclipse 3.8.2 (Juno) and also use the Juno 
>> update site. Other updated update sites (and installation units) include: 
>> groovy, subversive, m2eclipse, and buckminster. It  runs well on my install 
>> of OS X 10.8.X. I am interested to know if these component updates cause 
>> anyone issues in their workflow. I do not use these components.
>> 
>> My intention is to update Golipse with this - I also think it is valuable to 
>> keep repos of both Golipse and the embedded script for flexibility. It'd 
>> probably be a good idea to move this script repo to the WOCommunity GitHub. 
>> It also may be a good idea to move the P2 director script from Mike Schrag's 
>> repo to WOCommunity. It is called from within go_wolips. While it works 
>> great as is, future changes to Eclipse (or P2 Equinox) could impact it.
>> 
>> Tim
>> UCLA GSE&IS
>> 
>> On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Tim Worman <li...@thetimmy.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Awesome, thanks David. I knew it was a wrapper for the embedded script and 
>>> I was about to go down the road of troubleshooting it. But if all we need 
>>> is to drop an update script in, that's great.
>>> 
>>> If it's helpful, I will probably still invest some time to get familiar 
>>> with the script and how p2 works.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:32 AM, David LeBer <dleber_wo...@codeferous.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I created Golipse as just a cocoa wrapper around the go_wolips script that 
>>>> Mike S created.
>>>> 
>>>> This is my clone of his gist: https://gist.github.com/rebeld/622437
>>>> 
>>>> It's probably out of sync with the app at this point. I don't know if 
>>>> there is a wocommunity gist version of it.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, you should be able to run it just from the command line, tweak it 
>>>> until it works, and then replace the script in the project.
>>>> 
>>>> D
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> David LeBer
>>>> Codeferous Software
>>>> 
>>>> On 2013-04-24, at 12:43 PM, Tim Worman <li...@thetimmy.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> OK, I'm learning more abut how this works. The P2 installer should be 
>>>>> part of the eclipse sdk download. So, to answer your question, the 
>>>>> requests probably do come from java. They may be timing out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm gonna dig in and learn about this a bit in the hopes that I can serve 
>>>>> the community by understanding how it works. I'm gonna start testing 
>>>>> pieces of the script.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anyone has already looked into this or has some other reason I 
>>>>> shouldn't invest time in this, let me know. Anyone who wants to assist, 
>>>>> message me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> UCLA GSE&IS
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Bastian Triller <bastian.tril...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are these requests to d.e.o from java? Do they timeout? If that's the 
>>>>>> case, try adding -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true to eclipse.ini or to 
>>>>>> the java commandline.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 23.04.2013 23:26 schrieb "Tim Worman" <li...@thetimmy.com>:
>>>>>> Well, this is what a drop-in replacement of Eclipse 3.8.2 download with 
>>>>>> the same updates yields. Looks like some of the update sites aren't 
>>>>>> working. The logging doesn't report which items it is failing to get. 
>>>>>> Neither wolips nor workspacemechanic are in the plugins folder - so it 
>>>>>> looks like those definitely failed. Possibly the issue is actually that 
>>>>>> 3.8 requires an updated P2 script. Actually, I think the result is the 
>>>>>> same with the current Golipse(3.7) - so I'd say it is broken.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Downloading and Installing the recommended Eclipse plugins ...
>>>>>> Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
>>>>>> executeWithRetry
>>>>>> INFO: I/O exception 
>>>>>> (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when 
>>>>>> processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to respond
>>>>>> Apr 23, 2013 2:10:26 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
>>>>>> executeWithRetry
>>>>>> INFO: Retrying request
>>>>>> Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
>>>>>> executeWithRetry
>>>>>> INFO: I/O exception 
>>>>>> (org.apache.commons.httpclient.NoHttpResponseException) caught when 
>>>>>> processing request: The server download.eclipse.org failed to respond
>>>>>> Apr 23, 2013 2:10:50 PM org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector 
>>>>>> executeWithRetry
>>>>>> INFO: Retrying request
>>>>>> Installation failed.
>>>>>> The installable unit 
>>>>>> org.zeroturnaround.eclipse.debug.feature.feature.group has not been 
>>>>>> found.
>>>>>> Application failed, log file location: 
>>>>>> /Users/worman/Desktop/eclipse/configuration/1366751366848.log
>>>>>> Cleaning up …
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>> UCLA GSE&IS
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Bastian Triller 
>>>>>> <bastian.tril...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Worman <li...@thetimmy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm looking at updating the Golipse app to install Eclipse/WOLips 3.8. 
>>>>>>> I'm just beginning so I'm not sure yet which options might break yet. 
>>>>>>> I'm examining the script, looking at all the plugins that get installed 
>>>>>>> and their associated update sites.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The update site for WOLips is: http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do we have an update site for a WOLips 3.8 or should 3.7 stable be used 
>>>>>>> with Eclipse 3.8?
>>>>>>> Eclipse 3.8 is only a bugfix release for 3.7, so WOLips 3.7 works with 
>>>>>>> Eclipse 3.8 as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, if anyone wants to test it, let me know.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tim
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