On 9/24/07, Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brandorr wrote: > > > I have rented one Joyent accelerator for the purpose of putting up > > various prototypes of a user facing website/portal. (server: > > b1.brandorr.com) Please let me know if you are interested in assisting > > this project, and I will give you access. (Especially if you have > > MoinMoin experience.) > > Did you get a chance to follow up the mail I cc'd you on 21st August, > pointing to the proposals for the restructuring of the current website? > (http://opensolaris.org/os/project/website/website_restructuring/) The > whole purpose of that proposal is to make it easier to do what you are > trying to do. > > I also suggest we move this thread over to website-discuss. > > > Shawn Walker, and Shiv are interested in working on this also, but > > there is a lot to work out, so the more the merrier. > > > > Cheers, > > Brian > > > > P.S. - The Summit topics related to this are listed below. > > Unfortunately I won't be at the summit, and I haven't seen the topics > below on website-discuss, my comments are below. > > > No User portal.. Opensolaris.org is aimed at developers: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "As Sun is marketing/pushing Indiana, Solaris, and OpenSolaris, we are > > seeing many people that aren't developers coming to this site. As > > this is the first thing they see when they get here, I feel that this > > should be the logical location for a user oriented welcome page. I > > also propose that this welcome page is much simpler, as the current > > page is a bit overwhelming for newcomers. (Hard to find certain links) > > > > Developers would still have access to a developer homepage that is > > linked off the new homepage. (We might even setup a redirect: > > dev.opensolaris.org) > > > > > > Opening care and feeding of Infrastructure to non-Sun employees: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Currently the Opensolaris.org infrastructure (www.opensolaris.org and > > the mailing lists being two example pieces of infrastructure) is > > completely maintained by Sun employees. This limits available > > resources. > > > > There are many of sys-admin types out in the community that are > > capable, and most likely willing, to help out. (As well as businesses > > that might be willing to fund contract employees to aid in this > > endeavor) > > > > Might we explore a path to opening Opensolaris.org's care and feeding > > to the greater community? > > I've been trying to engage people for some time, and so far I haven't > had much of a response. As well as sysadmins we also need Java hackers, > but I expect they are pretty thin on the ground in this community... > > Anyone interested, please take a look at > http://opensolaris.org/os/project/website/ and post followups to > website-discuss. > > Thanks! > > -- > Alan Burlison > -- > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pradhap Devarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:31:08 +0100 > Subject: Re: [website-discuss] Proposal: Change homepage orientation towards > Solaris/OpenSolaris users. (vs. devs) > Pradhap Devarajan wrote: > > > I agree with Brain.. navigation in OpenSolaris.org is not user friendly ... > > major FOSS projects websites http://debian.org http://www.ubuntu.com/ are > > more user friendly.. If OpenSolaris.org is meant for developers, can we have > > a site http://users.opensolaris.org which will more towards end-users who > > are not developers. > > The aim is to break the current opensolaris.org monolith into smaller > webapps, so that different bits can be done by different people. I > posted this a while ago, but it didn't elicit all that much of a response: > > http://opensolaris.org/os/project/website/website_restructuring/ > > -- > Alan Burlison > --
Alan, I am trying to just get going with one piece of this, without having to reinvent the world in the whole process. I also don't agree with all of the website redesign goals/methods. In particular: - I don't think a consistent look and feel should be mandatory (Limits choices, and imposes development overhead, not to mention freedom of expression). - The current authentication method plan (http://opensolaris.org/os/project/website/website_restructuring/opensolaris_authentication.txt ) won't work for many of us, as LDAP is much easier to support. (The method described requires Java hacking for each mini-site, with LDAP we can use the native LDAP support in whatever webapp we are using.) Obviously any work that we do can be leveraged as part of the website redesign. I just don't to make one contingent on the other. I ask one final question. If 99% of the "users" don't participate in OpenSolaris development, is it even necessary to have the user portal share authentication with the developer portal? (IE: SSO is nice in theory, but a lot of work to implement). Cheers, Brian -- - Brian Gupta http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nycosug/ _______________________________________________ website-discuss mailing list website-discuss@opensolaris.org
