On 24/09/2007, Brandorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/24/07, Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brandorr wrote: > > > > > I have rented one Joyent accelerator for the purpose of putting up > > > various prototypes of a user facing website/portal. (server: > > > b1.brandorr.com) Please let me know if you are interested in assisting > > > this project, and I will give you access. (Especially if you have > > > MoinMoin experience.) > > > > Did you get a chance to follow up the mail I cc'd you on 21st August, > > pointing to the proposals for the restructuring of the current website? > > (http://opensolaris.org/os/project/website/website_restructuring/) The > > whole purpose of that proposal is to make it easier to do what you are > > trying to do. > > > > I also suggest we move this thread over to website-discuss. > > > > > Shawn Walker, and Shiv are interested in working on this also, but > > > there is a lot to work out, so the more the merrier. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Brian > > > > > > P.S. - The Summit topics related to this are listed below. > > > > Unfortunately I won't be at the summit, and I haven't seen the topics > > below on website-discuss, my comments are below. > > > > > No User portal.. Opensolaris.org is aimed at developers: > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > "As Sun is marketing/pushing Indiana, Solaris, and OpenSolaris, we are > > > seeing many people that aren't developers coming to this site. As > > > this is the first thing they see when they get here, I feel that this > > > should be the logical location for a user oriented welcome page. I > > > also propose that this welcome page is much simpler, as the current > > > page is a bit overwhelming for newcomers. (Hard to find certain links) > > > > > > Developers would still have access to a developer homepage that is > > > linked off the new homepage. (We might even setup a redirect: > > > dev.opensolaris.org) > > > > > > > > > Opening care and feeding of Infrastructure to non-Sun employees: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Currently the Opensolaris.org infrastructure (www.opensolaris.org and > > > the mailing lists being two example pieces of infrastructure) is > > > completely maintained by Sun employees. This limits available > > > resources. > > > > > > There are many of sys-admin types out in the community that are > > > capable, and most likely willing, to help out. (As well as businesses > > > that might be willing to fund contract employees to aid in this > > > endeavor) > > > > > > Might we explore a path to opening Opensolaris.org's care and feeding > > > to the greater community? > > > > I've been trying to engage people for some time, and so far I haven't > > had much of a response. As well as sysadmins we also need Java hackers, > > but I expect they are pretty thin on the ground in this community... > > > > Anyone interested, please take a look at > > http://opensolaris.org/os/project/website/ and post followups to > > website-discuss. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Alan Burlison > > -- > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Pradhap Devarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:31:08 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [website-discuss] Proposal: Change homepage orientation > > towards Solaris/OpenSolaris users. (vs. devs) > > Pradhap Devarajan wrote: > > > > > I agree with Brain.. navigation in OpenSolaris.org is not user friendly > > > ... > > > major FOSS projects websites http://debian.org http://www.ubuntu.com/ are > > > more user friendly.. If OpenSolaris.org is meant for developers, can we > > > have > > > a site http://users.opensolaris.org which will more towards end-users who > > > are not developers. > > > > The aim is to break the current opensolaris.org monolith into smaller > > webapps, so that different bits can be done by different people. I > > posted this a while ago, but it didn't elicit all that much of a response: > > > > http://opensolaris.org/os/project/website/website_restructuring/ > > > > -- > > Alan Burlison > > -- > > Alan, I am trying to just get going with one piece of this, without > having to reinvent the world in the whole process. I also don't agree > with all of the website redesign goals/methods. In particular: > > - I don't think a consistent look and feel should be mandatory (Limits > choices, and imposes development overhead, not to mention freedom of > expression).
I think there are very few scenarios in which a consistent look and feel shouldn't be enforced. Having consistent navigation for project and community info pages makes it easy for people to find information and makes the overall community feel more cohesive. There should be places where folks can have "free reign," but I think those specific areas should be identified. > - The current authentication method plan > (http://opensolaris.org/os/project/website/website_restructuring/opensolaris_authentication.txt > ) won't work for many of us, as LDAP is much easier to support. (The > method described requires Java hacking for each mini-site, with LDAP > we can use the native LDAP support in whatever webapp we are using.) > > Obviously any work that we do can be leveraged as part of the website > redesign. I just don't to make one contingent on the other. > > I ask one final question. If 99% of the "users" don't participate in > OpenSolaris development, is it even necessary to have the user portal > share authentication with the developer portal? (IE: SSO is nice in > theory, but a lot of work to implement). I think SSO is an absolute necessity. I already have hundreds of logins to remember (no joke!) and I really don't need any extra ones. I don't think it will be that difficult to implement given proper planning. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. " --Donald Knuth _______________________________________________ website-discuss mailing list website-discuss@opensolaris.org
