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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Keith Williams <
kwilli...@thoughtfarmproductions.com> wrote:

> I updated the Drupal demo with a WYSIWYG editor and you can now create
> pages.
>
> Go to create content on left nav menu and pick what you want to make.  YOu
> will need to select the menu for pages, but all pages created by you show up
> in the top data driven page.  All pages created by anyone show up in the
> other at the top.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Erich Christian <erich_...@irq.at> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am 19.10.2010 01:39, schrieb Keith Williams:
>> > My opinion...
>> > Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian.
>>
>> wrong
>>
>>
>> > I think there are 3-4 people here that like Drupal in this group.
>>
>> but it seems none of them has got the time to maintain or even set it
>> up, so we too could use a few of the million features by ourselves to
>> make up our minds about it...
>>
>>
>> > The couple people interested in Drupal are working on a demo on my
>> server.
>> > I wish I had time to put in this week to this, but I literally am doing
>> 120%
>> > work on some projects, so I have no time to do a demo so that I can
>> convince
>> > one person that Drupal is a good system for a project like this.
>>
>> Is it really about convincing what we're are talking about here?
>> There are so many systems out there and still much more than two fitting
>> our requirements. The point was made clear before* that a few people
>> have to have time and skills to maintain the whatever system we are
>> going to use.
>>
>>
>> > After reviewing silverstripe, it seems that it is primarily designed to
>> be a
>> > content management system or a blog for a few people or a company.  It
>> may
>> > be a perfectly acceptable solution for sites like this; however, a large
>> > website for a distributed community of individuals collaborating on a
>> > project is not a simple cms website.  Are there silverstripe sites with
>> > large million+ hit per day sites that have hundreds of thousands of
>> > registered users working in different areas of the site and with
>> different
>> > levels of access.
>>
>> Do you really claim this ever happened with the OOo websites? All
>> together it may sum up to a few hundred people using them - not looking
>> at them! - and just a few handful of people are probably actually
>> maintaining these sites.
>>
>>
>> > So yes, Drupal does take some time to setup.  Looking at
>> > the default install of drupal without a guided tour is like installing
>> linux
>> > and wondering why it isn't making you coffee and writing your papers for
>> > you.
>> >
>> > Christian:
>> > You're looking at it from a users point of view???? Thats not
>>  reasonable,
>> > you can make Drupal and I'm sure silverstripe look like anything.  THE
>> REAL
>> > ISSUE is going to be designing, configuring, coding, and maintaining the
>> > site.   Unless Silverstripe has a graphical query builder with access to
>> > user profiles, content, files, a form builder data, fine grained user
>> roles,
>> > and a million tutorials on how to use it like Drupal does, then I think
>> > silverstripe is not a good choice.
>>
>>
>> As I see it, it is a huge advante of e.g. Silverstripe, that one does
>> not have to read/watch a million tutorials to get something going. I
>> didn't even hear about it until a couple of days ago but I used it to
>> find out how it works and did not look for reviews on the web to cite
>> opinions of other people here. I found it to be highly intuitive
>> enabling you to find almost everything you might be looking for right
>> away or after a quick glimpse into the help files.
>>
>>
>> > The main advantage Drupal has is that a
>> > "User" can be a designer and the "User" does not need to be a coder to
>> help
>> > with the website setup.
>>
>> This is the general advanage of all CMS available. But there are a few
>> which became so complex and huge that exactly this advantage got lost,
>> e.g. typo, joomla, drupal... just to mention some of them.
>>
>>
>> > If you don't have the time to talk on skype / or something else about
>> this
>> > then you're really not interested in finding a good solution for this,
>> your
>> > only interested in promoting silverstripe for some reason.
>>
>> How can a cheap polemic help to find a good solution? The same argument
>> fits to your 'promotion' and it seems there's enough time for...
>>
>> * In my eyes the point is rather:
>>
>> Am 18.10.2010 21:56, schrieb Andreas Mantke:
>> > Am Montag, 18. Oktober 2010, 18:12:35 schrieb Drew Jensen:
>> >> Is there anyone here willing to accept the responsibility to help
>> >> admin the CMS instance, say for the next year, without regard to
>> >> which CMS is selected? (cause I have to think it's going to evolve
>> >> quickly, so it is going to be a reasonable time commitment for the
>> >> admin, at least for the first couple of months, my best guess anyway)
>> > I don't think nobody will accept such a responsibility, because no
>> > one is familar with a huge number (or maybe all) CMS.
>> > I think we should ask the other way around. Who is willing to do the
>> > CMS admin job for a year or so and for which CMS he could provide
>> > this work. If we find the perfect CMS but we have no one, who could do
>> the job, we had to go with the second or third  best CMS ;-)
>>
>> ...regarding the fact that one is willing but not familiar with the
>> choice he/she has to be able to get into it quite fast and easy.
>>
>> just my opinion
>>
>> Erich
>>
>>
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