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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Narayan Aras <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Hi Mike, David, all-
>
> The agenda has 10 topics. Too many for a 1 hour session.
> (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/ConfCall/Agenda).
>
> We will have only 5 minutes to settle each topic.
>
> The discussions will not be conclusive in this pressure cooker situation.
> Then we will come to the "storm" (or "fission") stage even before we
> realize! :)
>
> Having a series of calls is not feasible, as that approach needs a lot of
> time.
> Besides, we are finding it difficult to set up this FIRST call itself.
> So setting up so many calls till we trash out all issues is virtually
> impossible.
>
> Therefore, it is best to settle at least the fundamental differences
> offline.
> That leaves the main meeting to settle finer details, and to ratify what
> was agreed offline.
>
> Assuming that we agree to use an offline tool to argue our case, the next
> question is "which tool"?
>
> Well, the simplest tool (which is also readily available) is a wiki
> discussion page.
>
> However, it cannot handle counterarguments that have to be attached to a
> specific part of someone else's statement. Also, when in a multi-person
> argument, it would quickly become confusing who is opposing whose views
> fully/party/conditionally.
>
> In other words, it cannot create an argument map properly. (Which is the
> need of the hour).
>
> A concept map does that extremely well.
>
> Another advantage of a Concept map is that it also allows us to split a
> larger issue, and discuss the parts separately and then combine the
> conclusions again.
>
> Concept map also allows us to interrelate different streams of arguments as
> the plot gets larger with more and more arguments added. Note that no other
> tool is good at this.
>
> Therefore I suggest using a concept map tool like CMAP, Freemind,
> graphmind. or even brainstorm.
>
> Someone will need to set up this tool temporarily.
>
> What do you think?
>
> If you have any doubt, we could try out one (contentious) topic on a wiki
> discussion page.
>
>
> Regards,
> Narayan
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:11:33 +0930
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: new
> features  page ...
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Charles Marcus
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 2011-01-17 8:39 AM, David Nelson wrote:
> > >> But I see a chance to bring him back into the mainstream of the
> > >> project by encouraging him (and his "Drupal boys") to take a leading
> > >> role in the development of the SilverStripe website as a superb
> > >> communications and marketing tool for Libreoffice and TDF.
> > >
> > > I also think that, if Michael were so inclined, Drupal could initially
> > > serve as the 'support' backend, with its potential for integrating all
> > > of the different support modes (email lists, forums and newsgroups)...
> > > this would give it the opportunity to 'prove' itself (personally, I
> have
> > > no idea if Drupal can even truly achieve this, much less is preferable
> > > over Silverstripe)...
> > >
> > >> I can still be there to play an assistive role in the wings, with
> > >> some great ideas, too. But Michael could take on the main written
> > >> content development role, working in close symbiosis with Christoph
> > >> and Ivan. I feel they will have a close empathy and an excellent
> > >> working relationship.
> > >>
> > >> I feel that this is a novel and creative solution to what could
> > >> otherwise become a conflictual and unproductive situation. We will
> > >> all win. Most important of all, LIBREOFFICE and TDF will win.
> > >>
> > >> What do you think? I am including Michael in this mail, and I want
> > >> to hear his feelings on this.
> > >
> > > I think its a great idea if Michael is willing to take it on...
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Charles
> >
> > Charles,
> > I like the idea, but I think it is worth waiting for the conference
> > call to discuss.
> > This is achievable, however it will take some time setting up and
> > configuring, and in the same time we could have all the same
> > functionality as the existing site on one unified system, allowing us
> > to automatically manage all of the cross links between the systems. We
> > might end up creating a monster that we need to manually manage. I
> > will look into the possibilities prior to the meeting.
> >
> > Again, it is a great idea. I will add it to the agenda for the Conference
> Call.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike Wheatland
> >
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