Hi Michael, hi Charles, David!

Am Samstag, den 29.01.2011, 16:16 +0930 schrieb Michael Wheatland:
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Charles Marcus
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 2011-01-27 3:36 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:
> >> Michael Wheatland wrote (27-01-11 09:05)
[...]
> > I'm sorry, but I really, really, *really* don't think that an email list
> > is the proper 'forum' for discussing things like this. How can this be
> > an effective medium for working out complex details for this kind of
> > thing? Heck, the 'Talk' page on a wiki page would be better than a mail
> > list thread.
[...]

The problem of grouping things pops up regularly, I think. And there
might be different ways to solve that.

First, an on-list discussion might be really helpful to work out the
design constraints, otherwise we'll might lost in endless discussions.
For example, there are usual "hints" like: try to reduce the number of
menu items to eight or below. Or, we have to support browsers A, B, and
C ... bla bla bla :-) Then you have the "design ingredients", like the
kind of menu (no drop-downs, design permits four sub-menu levels...). Or
the "target users", primarily target "end-users" (on front pages XYZ).
Some of these decisions might be iterated, but it helps to focus in the
very first step ... and also for all the other to come.

A few days ago, I've already started to put together some thoughts that
can be seen here ...
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Structure#Proposal_by_Christoph

Does this sound reasonable? Might we continue with such stuff?

And I (personally) started to collect some ideas for the IA, but this is
far from mature ... and more urgent things are still waiting.

> Maybe we should dedicate a conference call to the web architecture?
> 
> Can you suggest any better way to allow people to express their
> opinions on the page structures?

Since, at the end, the IA is something our users are faced to, the IA is
usually backed by some research - one of the methods is "card sorting":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_sorting

Maybe there is a chance to apply it here - without adding too much
effort. Therefore I CC our "agile usability" expert Björn. Any ideas? Do
you have (maybe) access to some data the KDE project worked on for their
infrastructure?

Cheers,
Christoph


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