I am using a smartphone, so replying in the proper way is not easy, but I'll 
try.

On 14/feb/2011, at 13:30, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol <[email protected]> wrote:

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>> Many users have never heard about wikis, and will never look for infos
>> inside a wiki.
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> This isn't an argument (except the us-marketer are quite more stupid than all 
> the other people around the world).
> The same with QA, testing, design etc and our daily LibreOffice-work.
> It is only an argument for changing our whole work from wiki and mailing 
> lists to something else. And that isn't my purpose.

I have talked about users, and not about the way we - as project members - work.

Users will not look for informations inside a wiki, and any volunteer starts 
from the user POV (maybe developers are different).

Let's also add that a website in English does not serve at all - for instance - 
most Italian native speakers, who will close the page before even trying to 
search for IT. The same applies to many other geographies.

So, in a sense, the website is already serving better English native speakers 
than native speakers of any other language (maybe, Dutch and Nordic are 
exceptions, as they are usually fluent in English).

Anyway, a transparent discussion about the US marketing list has already 
happened, when I have asked for it (please note that I'm Italian - as my first 
name says - and I live and work in Italy).

I would support any other request for an English or Spanish local marketing 
list, because it just makes sense (and I would read the list to help: I can 
read also French and Portuguese).

I hope this explains better.
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