At 06:24 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, Ian Bicking wrote:
>Chuck Esterbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 01:40 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, Ian Bicking wrote:
> > >Though if IE had just kept the HTMLINPUT tag, that would have helped a
> > >lot too. It was such a good idea. Sigh.
> >
> > What was that? I never heard of it.
>
>Apparently for a beta (5.0 beta, maybe) they had something like
>TEXTAREA... maybe it was called HTMLAREA. Anyway, you could enter
>rich text, with bold, italic, etc. IE would then send it as text with
>HTML markup. But they took it out :-(
Holy cow, I could have totally used that for my current CMS project.
>I don't like spreadsheets. I code in Emacs. I read my mail in
>Emacs. I love Emacs. I never ever use spreadsheets, why use them for
>this one thing?
Because Emacs does not and never will contain the entire world. It doesn't
do diagrams, it doesn't do spreadsheets, it doesn't play video games, it's
not a bash shell (AFAIK), etc.
And it shouldn't be. If you eventually poured everything in there, you
would have an op sys and a bunch of programs. But we already have that.
> > You can do this now. Check out the test suite for UserKit. I create an MK
> > model there *in Python*.
> >
> > Knock yourself out. ;-)
>
>I'm unclear, once I've created the model how do I create the store
>based on that model?
I think there are 2 methods. readModelFileNamed() and setModel() or
something like that. It's all in UserKit/Tests/Test.py. Find makeModel()
and go from there.
Also, since white space is stripped off of field values by default, you
could align your CSV columns with spaces.
Or use a spreadsheet. :-)
> > I'd also be curious if ArgoUML's flavor of XML could be read *and* if
> > ArgoUML is flexible enough to capture non-UML-corresponding aspects of
> MK's
> > model via attribute dictionaries (or some other technique) in the GUI.
> > Why? Because then you could define your object model in Argo and use
> it in
> > MiddleKit.
> >
> > http://www.argouml.org/
>
>I've never really understood what UML languages really offer over just
>reading something and thinking about it.
If you read and think that doesn't produce anything that someone else can
use. I guess UML becomes more useful as you work with more people.
Also, if MK could drive off of UML, then that would be another way (vs. CSV
and Python) to create the models that MK requires.
> > <IMG SRC=$foo>
> >
> > $foo could expand to:
> > "foo.gif"
> > or even:
> > "foo.gif" width=10 height=10
> >
> > What am I missing?
>
>The WYSIWYG editor would really like to know what image you are
>inserting. The editor of course can't find any image named $foo. It
>would be easier for it to understand
>
><IMG SRC="sample.gif" replace="$foo">
>
>Or whatever.
I see. The preview will be broken. Good point.
> > >I also like the ability to use the same system to do HTML-level
> > >transformations. Similar to XSLT, except in a procedural language we
> > >already know (Python).
> >
> > Would WebUtils.HTMLTag help at all here? It puts HTML into a Pythonic
> > structure. It doesn't have many manipulative conveniences right now. Just
> > searching and writing the HTML back out.
>
>Yes. Like I said before, HTMLTag is fairly close to equivalent to the
>structure I used. The transformer I used that implemented the
>ZPT-style attribute-based language also could be used to transform the
>HTML from one form to another. I felt this was best handled as a
>transformation, not a method of the HTML parse tree.
>
>To give an example of HTML transformation, here's the code to change
>all A HREF tags to use redirects (so you can log it) and have some
>JavaScript to hide you are doing that:
>
>def a_transform(node):
> if not node.has_key("href"):
> # It must be a <a name> node, which we don't care about
> return node
> loc = node["href"]
> if loc[:7] != "http://"; and loc[:8] != "https://":
In Py 2.0 and later:
if not loc.startswith('http://') and not loc.startswith('https://'):
> # It's a local site or something, so we don't need to log
> return node
> node["href"] = '/redirect.cgi?loc=%s' % urllib.quote(loc)
> node["onMouseOver"] = "window.status='%s'" % htmlEncode(loc)
> node["onMouseOut"] = "window.status=''"
> return node
-Chuck
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