On 03/30/2003 01:53:10 AM Ian wrote: >There's a perception -- unfortunately not entirely unfounded -- that Webware isn't >going anywhere. I think we've been making some more progress lately, >and a new website could help people better realize that. I like the >design.
Website design aside, that issue of Webware not going anywhere is a thorny one. It is a great, easy to use platform, but we are all reinventing the wheel in that there is no easy way for us to build reuseable, modular applications in the same sense that Zope has (maybe this is a bad example). What I mean is that the very flexible, open nature of Webware that attracted each of us to it also means that each of us uses different bits and pieces to suit our (legitimate) project needs. But building Humpty-Dumpty requires more than finding pieces and trying to fit them together. It actually requires a higher level understanding of what the whole looks like and how current and future pieces can and should fit together. It is this higher level framework that seems to be missing. I, for example, am using Webware, FunFormKit, Cheetah, and PostgreSQL because flexibility and data integrity matters to me. Somebody else might use Webware, PSP, MiddleKit, and MySQL, because ease of development and deployment matters to him. When this happens, we can't use each other's model or controller logic (I'm using the MVC paradigm as a basis of discussion here) because we don't even have a consistent way to reuse basic stuff like user authentication, security, etc. And we can't reuse the view level logic because we don't use the same presentation level techniques. It seems to me that for Webware to go anywhere in terms of developing a rich selection of ready-to-run packages and universally useful things like authentication and security, we need to agree to some standard application-level framework, API, database, etc. ...Edmund. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en _______________________________________________ Webware-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-devel
