>At 10:55 PM -0500 1/16/02, Ben Parker wrote:
>>If you manage to install Webware from FTP or SCP access only, you can
always
>>use popen() from within a servlet to execute any command as if you were in
a
>>shell.
>
>That's interesting as I would have thought (and hoped) that you would
>at least have to figure out a way to change to a privileged user id
>before you could start issuing system commands. Don't servlets run as
>user Nobody just like cgi?
>
>>  So you could have a servlet handled by OneShot that starts up the
>>persistent application server.
>
>There's another issue tho- most virtual hosts use procwatch (or
>something like it) to kill off long running processes that aren't
>authorized. If python isn't on the list, the app server will go down
>in about 20 seconds.

Good call, both of those may be a problem.

I've been working with my own server for a while so I assumed that the CGI
would be configured to run as the user on the box, but not all shared-server
providers do that.

I also assumed that this user was allowed to run long processes, but just
didn't have access.  Either way it's a bad situation!

>In any case, I can't see trying to do anything serious with webware
>or much else for that matter if you don't have shell access. It's
>aggravating enough to not have root privileges.

Hear, hear! Switch providers!


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