Kendall Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:15:23PM -0500, Geoffrey Talvola wrote:
> > Actually, I don't mind if other major work goes into 
> Webware before 1.0,
> > like Jay's multi-application version of WebKit or some of Tavis's
> > experimental work.  I just want to make sure we're making 
> progress toward a
> > release that we can call 1.0.
> 
> Hey, that's pretty funny, Geoff.
> 
> That's *exactly* what I wanted to say, i.e., I do hope that 
> some of the
> experimental stuff makes it in before 1.0 (well, I don't care 
> about release
> nubmers, per se; I just would like to see more of that stuff 
> migrate more
> regularly). A good deal of the Tavis and Jay stuff strikes me 
> as *very*
> cool, including the dependency stuff, ideas for a CacheKit, 
> some of the url
> traversal changes, etc.
> 
> I just figured Chuck was prolly dead set against it. :>
> 
> As an outsider, there does sometimes seem to be some kind of 
> slightly odd
> tension between the experimental stuff and the 'mainstream' 
> Webware -- at
> least, a tension among some of the various proponents about 
> what goes in and
> what doesn't.
> 
> Anyway, thanks for making this point publicly.

I'm speaking for myself only, but the biggest problem with incorporating
Tavis's changes, and the reason it hasn't even started, is that it is a
_rewrite_ of Webware where many parts have been rewritten in a major way.
We don't necessarily want _all_ of the changes, but in the current form it's
impossible to just grab some of the changes without MAJOR effort to
understand it.  It's a big effort that I'm not sure any of the Webware
developers really wants to undertake.

If we could decouple the changes from each other, and have a separate
discussion of the merits of each proposed change, then phase in the new
features gradually as patches, then I could see a path for migrating Webware
towards what Tavis has done.  It'd probably have to be Tavis who does most
of the work to create those patches.

I think that Jay's multi-application and HTTP server stuff stands a very
good chance of going in.  From what I understand if you're not using the
multi-application features then you really don't have to change anything.
That makes it much easier to accept.

- Geoff

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