Just to add my 2 cents. I haven't found any stability or leakyness issues. I have a webware server that has been running uninterupted for over a year now. The memory usage has stayed level and it keeps chugging along even though it handles a reasonable load every day. Also, it powers mostly PSP pages that the designers are updating on a regular basis, and are constantly causing exceptions on.
- Aaron Switzer On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 22:47, Shayne ONeill wrote: > Perhaps. I definately agree on the performance aspect. My personal concern > is a stability one. Basically I just dont believe the servlet model can > offer the same sort of stability that the one-hit page model can, > principally because on a php page, if the code raises an exception, it'll > flatten the page, not the server. There can also be issues with locking , > 'leakyness' (not *really* as big a problem with python, but I've seen it > in java servlets despite the touted magic of garbage collection). > > Finally I do believe webware is not too hard to kill. I'm sadly having to > reboot the webware install I maintain pretty regularly. > > Now all that aside , heres why I persevere: Webware is good! The webkit > offers a pretty straight forward way to generate persistant servlet stylee > without horrible.java.abstact.compsci.evil brain hurt. Its pythonic and > pythonic is nice. > > Any process control stuff is going to need a persistant process anyway. > Maintaining serial connections, listening for state data from devices etc > etc. One aproach has been a little more abstraction. > > I put together a system for controling a large security camera network > that works *imaculately* that had this;- > > control data<---[pc]->control server<-[xml-rpc]---->interface > | > camera data <---[pc's]->storage<------[mjpeg streams]---+ > > the beauty of that, is that I had a php interface that could talk to the > server while isolating the control server from 'idiot userfinger land'. > I also put together a little delphi app that had dials and knobs and other > eyecandy, and generally it was a functional well apreciated interface and > worked well. The control server runs webware, but not for the web > interface, but rather for xml-rpc. Strange hack granted, but the structure > of webware suited the task perfectly. > > Also handy: It needed no db :) I still cant wrap my head around making > mysql threadsafe. > > -- > Shayne O'Neill.. trådkrämare > http://perth.indymedia.org > "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldnt do my job." > --George W Bush. > http://atheism.about.com/b/a/099745.htm > > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Winston Wolff wrote: > > > I regularly run apache bench to test my website on my rather slow > > 800MHz Mac. It serves about 40 pages per second. This is somewhat > > faster than PHP runs, and 20 times faster than my old JSP/J2EE > > application would run. So I think performance of Webware is top notch. > > Also related to performance is reliability and I find Webware very > > stable. When one servlet raises an exception, it does not cause > > problems for other parts of the website. If the whole thing should go > > down, then it will automatically restart. > > > > -winston > > > > > > On Jan 20, 2005, at 11:05 AM, michelts wrote: > > > > > Hi guys! > > > > > > I planning to make a system to automatizate the site factory. I use > > > cheetah and webware, each site will have a standart look and feel, I > > > will have several sites (the goal is to hit up to 1000 clients in one > > > year), my worry is with the webware performance. Each site will have > > > few acess, but grouping all the sites... I think it's about > > > > > > Is there a reason to worry or webware can handle this? Does anyone > > > have a big site running under webware? > > > > > > -- > > > Michel Thadeu Sabchuk > > > Curitiba - PR > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IntelliVIEW -- Interactive Reporting > > > Tool for open source databases. Create drag-&-drop reports. Save time > > > by over 75%! 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