Indeed Gerald, the statement that they are not required is beyond
inaccurate.  In fact they are required to give them out at the first
reasonable opportunity after the emergency.  This can include by mail as
well - which is how my local government clients will be handling it with
their EMT.  Plus we are printing up new business cards for all EMT personnel
with the webaddress of the website with the NPP on the card - the cards will
be given out to every transport or patient as a backup.  Plus this
webaddress will be on all forms and documents.  Plus copies will be at all
locations, as well as a copy in the EMT vehicle.  Now, was that so hard?

If there is one thing true about HIPAA, it's don't guess, and argue on the
side of overkill!

Regards,

Tim McGuinness, Ph.D.
Consulting Specialist in Regulatory Privacy, Security, and Application
Compliance
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald E. DeLoss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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What specific section of the rule do you base this on?  I disagree.

Jud

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-----Original Message-----
From: William Gateland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:05 PM
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Forget all this talk about layered notice or full
notice.  The EMS does not have to carry NPP's or give
them out per the rule.

Bodhitaro1
--- Dee Warrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Spencer,
>
> Donald is correct.  Members/patients must receive
> the whole document -- even if covered entities
> choose to create a "layered" notice.  It is simply
> an executive summary for the members/patients.
>
> Dee Warrington
> Director, HIPAA and Regulatory Compliance
> OAO HealthCare Solutions, Inc.
> 20955 Warner Center Lane
> Woodland Hills, CA  91367
> (818) 598-6606
> Fax: (818) 598-3270
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ribelin, Donald
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:55 AM
> To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
> Subject: RE: EMS and the NPP
>
>
> Spencer, this is not how I read this provision.  I
> believe you must provide the entire NPP, not just
> part of it.  IMHO, the layer is simply a bulleted
> cover sheet that is meant to assist the patient in
> better understanding their rights.
>
> Donald L. Ribelin
> HIPAA Project Manager
> Firsthealth of the Carolinas
> (910) 215-2668
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spencer Hall
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:33 AM
> To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
> Subject: RE: EMS and the NPP
>
> The recent guidance allows for a "layered" NPP - you
> can provide your customers with a shot form and then
> provide the long form if it is requested.
>
>
> Spencer D. Hall
> Health Information Security Officer
> St. Vincent's
> (904) 308-7029
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>> "Ribelin, Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 01/23/03 07:56AM >>>
> Chris, thanks for the feedback. Biggest problem, our
> NPP is five pages (front and back) long.  Attaching
> it becomes an issue secondary to its bulk.  Good
> point about 911 calls.  We are less worried about
> them.
>
> Donald L. Ribelin
> HIPAA Project Manager
> Firsthealth of the Carolinas
> (910) 215-2668
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Brancato
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:20 AM
> To: Ribelin, Donald; WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup
> List
> Subject: RE: EMS and the NPP
>
> Don,
> I consult with some of the nations largest Fire/EMS
> departments for HIPAA.
> I advise several different ways. Non-transports
> require a treat and release signature from a
> patient.
> A copy of NPP can be printed on the back or
> separately, but they should make a "reasonable
> attempt" to provide the NPP. What you don't say is
> how they are activated. If they are activated via
> 911, this is an emergency response, not requiring an
> NPP as the call is emergency, not routine, in
> nature.
>
> I also advise departments that do the billing to
> include the NPP in the billing statement, just like
> the Credit Card companies do.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Chris Brancato
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ribelin, Donald
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:03 AM
> To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
> Subject: RE: EMS and the NPP
>
> An interesting question from our EMS HIPAA rep
> yesterday:
>
> When EMS treats and transports an accident victim to
> another hospital (one not part of our enterprise),
> should we give them a copy of our NPP?  One of the
> underlying issues centers on our management of EMS
> in several counties.   While most of the patients
> involved end up at FirstHealth facilities (where
> they would receive a copy of the NPP once their
> condition allowed), a significant minority are
> transported to other hospitals. On first look my
> response is that the receiving facility would be
> responsible for providing the patient with a copy of
> their NPP.  But is that the case?  I would like the
> group's comments, opinions and citations re: the
> whole ems issue.  I am also looking forward to OCR's
> clarifications on these issues.
>
>
> Donald L. Ribelin
> HIPAA Project Manager
> Firsthealth of the Carolinas
> (910) 215-2668
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