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What a mess! Why not just pass the originally received 270 intact on to the payer and back without modifying the data received from the originator? Actually, my opinion is that such a modification violates the basic data integrity of any information security policy and procedure: confidentiality, integrity, access.
 
The X12 standards have built into them in the various control segments and control data (date/time stamps, identifiers, control numbers) that clearinghouses, etc. can use for receiving, storing and forwarding transactions to the intended receiver. Other industries, including the medical products and pharmaceutical supply chains, that make extensive use of the EDI X12 standards don't fool around with the business data contained within a transaction set, and health care administrative simplification under HIPAA shouldn't do it either.
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Falbowski, Ellen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:44 AM
To: WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List
Subject: RE: Submitter Transaction Identifier - 270/271

Provider assigns a number (say, 123) to the BHT03 and passes the 270 transaction to the clearinghouse.  Clearinghouse stores the provider's number and populates a new number (say, 456) before passing the 270 transaction to the payer.  Payer returns the 271 response with the clearinghouse's number (456).  Clearinghouse grabs the 271 transaction, re-populates the BHT03 with the provider's number (123) from the 270, and returns the 271 to provider.  This also works if the transaction travels through multiple clearinghouses.  It allows the clearinghouse to keep track of each response even when multiple providers assign the same number (a likely scenario).
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: John Branwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:28 PM
To: WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List
Subject: Submitter Transaction Identifier - 270/271

My question is regarding Submitter Transaction Identifier(BHT03 - Header). The guide notes states -
".. This identifier is to be returned in the corresponding 271 transaction's BHT03. This identifier will only be returned by the last entity to handle the 270. This identifier will not be passed through the complete life of the transaction. All recipients of 270 transactions are required to return the Submitter Transaction Identifier in their 271 response if one is submitted."

Considering the following two statements :
1> This identifier will not be passed through the complete life of the transaction.
2> This is the number assigned by the originator to identify the
transaction within the originator's business application system.

My question is that for statement <2> to happen the provider needs to receive the same number back on 271. But, if the number doens't get passed throughout the lifecycle of the transaction(as stated in statement <1>), how will the provider receive it back on 271?
I am certainly missing something out here. Please comment and clarify.

Thanks in advance.

John

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