Marsha,
No.  CMS has "blessed" use of non-complient codes for dates of service before 16 Oct 2003.
The 385 is complient if it uses the code set that was valid at the date of service.  Local codes are included in this up till the deadline.
 
My main reason for avoiding more than one code set in a claim ia to avoid confusing myself (and, if I am confused, how about the payer?).
 
The opinions expressed here are my own and not necessarily the opinion of LCMH.
 
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Doug,

What do you do with non-Claims non-Enrollment transactions like the 835s in
your scenario?

The 835 Remittance will be produced from a - let's say weekly - Claims Financial process.
It will contain all the claims paid, denied, adjusted or voided during the previous work week.
The dates of service will vary widely!

So if the extract has a mix of claims ... and therefore a mix of HIPAA compliant and
non-compliant Medical Codes Set values ... won't this  produce a non-compliant 835 ?

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Miriam,
It depends.  If the code set is "Medical" (such as CPT codes) , the cut-off
is based on the Date of Service; for "Non-medical" codes (such as ZIP codes
and Provider Taxonomy), the cut-off is based on the Date of Transaction.
For claims crossing a transition date, confusion reigns.  I would ensure
that the two different code sets were in different claims (codes that
appear in Subscriber level segments or below), or Transactions (codes that
appear in higher-level segments).

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 Have heard conflicting reports from lots of experts that I respect...
 So...

 Is use of the HIPAA code sets dependent on the date of service of the
 claim, or the transmission date of the file?  What happens when the file
 contains a mix of dates of service and some of those claims use the HIPAA
 codes and some do not?


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