re vantage driver - Tom is the man


On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 10:56:25 UTC+2, Andrew Milner wrote:
>
> If you set software record creation in weewx [[StdArchive]] section of 
> weewx.conf then the hardware archive record will not be used and weewx will 
> generate the archive records from the LOOP packets - so if only the LOOP 
> packets are supplied weewx should generate the REC packets itself.
>
> .
>
> On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 09:33:01 UTC+2, Colin Larsen wrote:
>>
>> The Arduino, yes it has RTC - the Rpi no. It is syncing to my own stratum 
>> 1 time source though, is that usually enough accuracy? I have a spare RTC 
>> module so I'll do that mod to dump the hwclock
>>
>> There has been a problem with the Arduino software regarding RTC that has 
>> just been corrected today - that was part of yesterdays frustration, so 
>> hopefully that's out of the way.
>>
>> The Arduino software writer is asking if the REC data can be ignored and 
>> just the LOOP data used, apparently some issue with not being able to 
>> expunge that record from memory. I'm not sure who to contact regards the 
>> vantage driver though.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:23 PM Andrew Milner <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> one further point …. caused by the enormous time difference in one of 
>>> your logs - do you have an RTC on the rpi and on the Arduino which is doing 
>>> the emulation?  weewx will throw wobblies and be rather unpredictable if it 
>>> starts before it has a correct time set and/or there is a large time 
>>> difference between station and weewx.  the fake hwclock by itself is not 
>>> sufficient.  weewx tries to hold off until it has what it thinks is the 
>>> right time - but does not always get it right.  rtc is the way to go for 
>>> guaranteed success and disable all references to the fake hwclock.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 05:57:59 UTC+2, Colin Larsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I don't know either :) I've handed the info to the 
>>>> developer to try and sort it out. I'll pass that on too though in case 
>>>> you're right.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018, 16:12 Andrew Milner, <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am a little baffled in that the REC looks more like what I would 
>>>>> expect for a LOOP and the LOOP looks more like what I would expect for a 
>>>>> REC in that the REC only contains barometer whilst the LOOP contains 
>>>>> altimeter, barometer and pressure values and without checking in fine 
>>>>> detail it looks as though there are more fields in the LOOP than there 
>>>>> are 
>>>>> in the REC.  Maybe this is what is expected, maybe not - only you know!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 01:25:57 UTC+2, Colin Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew, 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks once agin for that nudge in the right direction! By running 
>>>>>> Weewx from the command line I was able to catch the faulty data and send 
>>>>>> it 
>>>>>> on to the developer of the hardware. I'm extremely grateful for the 
>>>>>> advice. 
>>>>>> As you'll see below the first REC packets have the wrong date, the LOOP 
>>>>>> packets are fine. This is obviously the issue that Weewx is rightly 
>>>>>> complaining about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> REC:    2019-09-11 12:05:00 NZST (1568160300) appTemp: 
>>>>>> 23.7946336801, barometer: 996.241532442, cloudbase: 1192.83426336, 
>>>>>> consBatteryVoltage: None, dateTime: 1568160300, dewpoint: 13.2578694156, 
>>>>>> ET: 0.0, extraTemp1: 0.0, extraTemp2: 0.0, extraTemp3: 0.0, 
>>>>>> forecastRule: 
>>>>>> 193, heatindex: 22.7777777778, highRadiation: 8.0, highUV: 0.0, humidex: 
>>>>>> 25.7175378458, inDewpoint: 12.5050008741, inHumidity: 48.0, inTemp: 
>>>>>> 24.2222222222, interval: 5, leafTemp1: 0.0, leafTemp2: 0.0, leafWet1: 
>>>>>> 0.0, 
>>>>>> leafWet2: 0.0, maxSolarRad: 677.517690702, outHumidity: 55.0, outTemp: 
>>>>>> 22.7777777778, radiation: 5.0, rain: 0.0, rainRate: 0.0, rxCheckPercent: 
>>>>>> 0.0, soilMoist1: 0.0, soilMoist2: 0.0, soilMoist3: 0.0, soilMoist4: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilTemp1: 0.0, soilTemp2: 0.0, soilTemp3: 0.0, soilTemp4: 0.0, 
>>>>>> txBatteryStatus: None, usUnits: 16, UV: 0.0, windchill: 22.7777777778, 
>>>>>> windDir: None, windGust: 0.0, windGustDir: None, windrun: 0.0, 
>>>>>> windSpeed: 
>>>>>> 0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> REC:    2019-09-11 12:10:00 NZST (1568160600) appTemp: 
>>>>>> 23.9395702779, barometer: 996.106076916, cloudbase: 1193.82866351, 
>>>>>> consBatteryVoltage: None, dateTime: 1568160600, dewpoint: 13.3610055859, 
>>>>>> ET: 0.0, extraTemp1: 0.0, extraTemp2: 0.0, extraTemp3: 0.0, 
>>>>>> forecastRule: 
>>>>>> 193, heatindex: 22.8888888889, highRadiation: 6.0, highUV: 0.0, humidex: 
>>>>>> 25.8866899091, inDewpoint: 12.3022086734, inHumidity: 48.0, inTemp: 
>>>>>> 24.0, 
>>>>>> interval: 5, leafTemp1: 0.0, leafTemp2: 0.0, leafWet1: 0.0, leafWet2: 
>>>>>> 0.0, 
>>>>>> maxSolarRad: 678.470118882, outHumidity: 55.0, outTemp: 22.8888888889, 
>>>>>> radiation: 6.0, rain: 0.0, rainRate: 0.0, rxCheckPercent: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilMoist1: 
>>>>>> 0.0, soilMoist2: 0.0, soilMoist3: 0.0, soilMoist4: 0.0, soilTemp1: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilTemp2: 0.0, soilTemp3: 0.0, soilTemp4: 0.0, txBatteryStatus: None, 
>>>>>> usUnits: 16, UV: 0.0, windchill: 22.8888888889, windDir: None, windGust: 
>>>>>> 0.0, windGustDir: None, windrun: 0.0, windSpeed: 0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> REC:    2019-09-11 12:15:00 NZST (1568160900) appTemp: 
>>>>>> 23.8477397072, barometer: 996.139940797, cloudbase: 1228.9199514, 
>>>>>> consBatteryVoltage: None, dateTime: 1568160900, dewpoint: 13.0795786931, 
>>>>>> ET: 0.0, extraTemp1: 0.0, extraTemp2: 0.0, extraTemp3: 0.0, 
>>>>>> forecastRule: 
>>>>>> 193, heatindex: 22.8888888889, highRadiation: 9.0, highUV: 0.0, humidex: 
>>>>>> 25.7291442751, inDewpoint: 11.9820744371, inHumidity: 47.0, inTemp: 
>>>>>> 24.0, 
>>>>>> interval: 5, leafTemp1: 0.0, leafTemp2: 0.0, leafWet1: 0.0, leafWet2: 
>>>>>> 0.0, 
>>>>>> maxSolarRad: 678.963138624, outHumidity: 54.0, outTemp: 22.8888888889, 
>>>>>> radiation: 9.0, rain: 0.0, rainRate: 0.0, rxCheckPercent: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilMoist1: 
>>>>>> 0.0, soilMoist2: 0.0, soilMoist3: 0.0, soilMoist4: 0.0, soilTemp1: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilTemp2: 0.0, soilTemp3: 0.0, soilTemp4: 0.0, txBatteryStatus: None, 
>>>>>> usUnits: 16, UV: 0.0, windchill: 22.8888888889, windDir: None, windGust: 
>>>>>> 0.0, windGustDir: None, windrun: 0.0, windSpeed: 0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> REC:    2019-09-11 12:20:00 NZST (1568161200) appTemp: 
>>>>>> 25.0073116388, barometer: 996.207668561, cloudbase: 1348.87628346, 
>>>>>> consBatteryVoltage: None, dateTime: 1568161200, dewpoint: 13.22865792, 
>>>>>> ET: 
>>>>>> 0.0, extraTemp1: 0.0, extraTemp2: 0.0, extraTemp3: 0.0, forecastRule: 
>>>>>> 193, 
>>>>>> heatindex: 24.0, highRadiation: 17.0, highUV: 0.0, humidex: 
>>>>>> 26.9233851327, 
>>>>>> inDewpoint: 12.2008068001, inHumidity: 48.0, inTemp: 23.8888888889, 
>>>>>> interval: 5, leafTemp1: 0.0, leafTemp2: 0.0, leafWet1: 0.0, leafWet2: 
>>>>>> 0.0, 
>>>>>> maxSolarRad: 678.996340225, outHumidity: 51.0, outTemp: 24.0, radiation: 
>>>>>> 10.0, rain: 0.0, rainRate: 0.0, rxCheckPercent: 0.0, soilMoist1: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilMoist2: 0.0, soilMoist3: 0.0, soilMoist4: 0.0, soilTemp1: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilTemp2: 0.0, soilTemp3: 0.0, soilTemp4: 0.0, txBatteryStatus: None, 
>>>>>> usUnits: 16, UV: 0.0, windchill: 24.0, windDir: None, windGust: 0.0, 
>>>>>> windGustDir: None, windrun: 0.0, windSpeed: 0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> REC:    2019-09-11 12:25:00 NZST (1568161500) appTemp: 
>>>>>> 25.1971216855, barometer: 995.97062139, cloudbase: 1389.00049386, 
>>>>>> consBatteryVoltage: None, dateTime: 1568161500, dewpoint: 13.1290899619, 
>>>>>> ET: 0.0, extraTemp1: 0.0, extraTemp2: 0.0, extraTemp3: 0.0, 
>>>>>> forecastRule: 
>>>>>> 193, heatindex: 24.2222222222, highRadiation: 12.0, highUV: 0.0, 
>>>>>> humidex: 
>>>>>> 27.090004937, inDewpoint: 12.0486967731, inHumidity: 48.0, inTemp: 
>>>>>> 23.7222222222, interval: 5, leafTemp1: 0.0, leafTemp2: 0.0, leafWet1: 
>>>>>> 0.0, 
>>>>>> leafWet2: 0.0, maxSolarRad: 678.570029189, outHumidity: 50.0, outTemp: 
>>>>>> 24.2222222222, radiation: 9.0, rain: 0.0, rainRate: 0.0, rxCheckPercent: 
>>>>>> 0.0, soilMoist1: 0.0, soilMoist2: 0.0, soilMoist3: 0.0, soilMoist4: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilTemp1: 0.0, soilTemp2: 0.0, soilTemp3: 0.0, soilTemp4: 0.0, 
>>>>>> txBatteryStatus: None, usUnits: 16, UV: 0.0, windchill: 24.2222222222, 
>>>>>> windDir: None, windGust: 0.0, windGustDir: None, windrun: 0.0, 
>>>>>> windSpeed: 
>>>>>> 0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOOP:   2018-10-30 12:13:45 NZDT (1540854825) altimeter: 
>>>>>> 998.675752833, appTemp: 19.2627703232, barometer: 998.984506851, 
>>>>>> cloudbase: 
>>>>>> 1093.61384033, consBatteryVoltage: 0.0, dateTime: 1540854825, dayET: 
>>>>>> 0.0, 
>>>>>> dayRain: 0.0, dewpoint: 10.3869357368, extraAlarm1: 0, extraAlarm2: 0, 
>>>>>> extraAlarm3: 0, extraAlarm4: 0, extraAlarm5: 0, extraAlarm6: 0, 
>>>>>> extraAlarm7: 0, extraAlarm8: 0, extraTemp1: 0.0, extraTemp2: 0.0, 
>>>>>> extraTemp3: 0.0, extraTemp4: 0.0, extraTemp5: 0.0, extraTemp6: 0.0, 
>>>>>> extraTemp7: 0.0, forecastIcon: 0, forecastRule: 0, heatindex: 
>>>>>> 19.1111111111, humidex: 20.5701568672, inDewpoint: 9.63329898111, 
>>>>>> inHumidity: 52.0, insideAlarm: 0, inTemp: 19.7777777778, leafTemp1: 0.0, 
>>>>>> leafTemp2: 0.0, leafTemp3: 0.0, leafTemp4: 0.0, leafWet1: 0.0, leafWet2: 
>>>>>> 0.0, leafWet3: 0.0, leafWet4: 0.0, maxSolarRad: 930.93994079, monthET: 
>>>>>> 0.0, 
>>>>>> monthRain: 0.0, outHumidity: 57.0, outsideAlarm1: 0, outsideAlarm2: 0, 
>>>>>> outTemp: 19.1111111111, pressure: 998.288070605, radiation: 0.0, rain: 
>>>>>> None, rainAlarm: 0, rainRate: 0.0, soilLeafAlarm1: 0, soilLeafAlarm2: 0, 
>>>>>> soilLeafAlarm3: 0, soilLeafAlarm4: 0, soilMoist1: 0.0, soilMoist2: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilMoist3: 0.0, soilMoist4: 0.0, soilTemp1: 0.0, soilTemp2: 0.0, 
>>>>>> soilTemp3: 0.0, soilTemp4: 0.0, stormRain: 0.0, stormStart: 943873200, 
>>>>>> sunrise: 1540810800, sunset: 1540810800, trendIcon: -1, txBatteryStatus: 
>>>>>> 1, 
>>>>>> usUnits: 16, UV: 0.0, windchill: 19.1111111111, windDir: None, windGust: 
>>>>>> 0.0, windGustDir: None, windSpeed: 0.0, windSpeed10: 0.0, yearET: 0.0, 
>>>>>> yearRain: 0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, 29 October 2018 23:02:39 UTC+13, Colin Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Andrew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for reply and help, you may just have given me the 
>>>>>>> information I need to debug this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes I do indeed realise that Thomas is 'Mr Weewx' and yes I love 
>>>>>>> this application too, that's why I went down the Weewx path. I looked 
>>>>>>> at 
>>>>>>> the amount of support folks were given when they struck hiccups and 
>>>>>>> went 
>>>>>>> 'wow' this is definitely what I'm looking for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I meant absolutely no disrespect in my reply, perhaps it was 
>>>>>>> tinged with a days debug frustration. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think what you've said about running Weewx from the command line 
>>>>>>> is exactly what I needed to know. The more information I can get for 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> WeatherDuino folk the faster they can fix any problem, so any logs etc 
>>>>>>> from 
>>>>>>> the Vantage driver will be a huge help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had already gone back to the vanilla Weewx, in fact I may do a 
>>>>>>> complete rebuild tomorrow to see if that helps. At the moment I just 
>>>>>>> want 
>>>>>>> to get good data flowing then I can move onto the glossy stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks again Andrew, hopefully Thomas hasn't written me off 
>>>>>>> just yet!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 22:22 Andrew Milner, <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>>> FYI Thomas IS mr weewx - it is HIS creation and HIS design.  If you 
>>>>>>>> are going to continue with weewx you'd be well advised to listen to 
>>>>>>>> what 
>>>>>>>> Thomas says!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you tried setting the debug options to gain further 
>>>>>>>> information??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The simulator does not use any hardware, does not obtain timestamps 
>>>>>>>> from anywhere other than the host machine - this could be why a new db 
>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>> simulator works.  The vantage driver has many years of successful 
>>>>>>>> operation 
>>>>>>>> with Davis hardware - whilst your Davis lookalike appears to generate 
>>>>>>>> archive types and timestamps which would not come from a real Davis 
>>>>>>>> device.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you run from the command line rather than as a background 
>>>>>>>> daemon?? This then gives Loop and Rec data as received - see the weewx 
>>>>>>>> user 
>>>>>>>> documentation for more information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since the hardware appears to be 'under development' I would 
>>>>>>>> recommend using only the standard weewx software - as downloaded from 
>>>>>>>> weewx 
>>>>>>>> repository, using the standard skin (not Belchertown) until such time 
>>>>>>>> as 
>>>>>>>> you have got everything working correctly - and then, and only then, 
>>>>>>>> start 
>>>>>>>> to use other skins.  The standard weewx uses much less cpu processing 
>>>>>>>> power 
>>>>>>>> than some of the other skins such as forecasts, Belchertown etc.  
>>>>>>>> Slowly 
>>>>>>>> but surely is the best way to sort out new hardware and software - and 
>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>> would appear to have both involved here!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> weewx is great, it is very stable, and it just works straight out 
>>>>>>>> of the box.  It rarely has bugs and very rarely has issues even.  It 
>>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>>> flexible, versatile, adaptable, extendable - how many more adjectives 
>>>>>>>> do 
>>>>>>>> you need??!!  However - whilst the standard weewx is well proven the 
>>>>>>>> same 
>>>>>>>> is not necessarily true for user supplied add-ons and enhancements.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, 29 October 2018 06:05:45 UTC+2, Colin Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Thomas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While I may agree with you that it's a station hardware problem I 
>>>>>>>>> do find that a particularly unhelpful statement. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When you say "clearly" where do you see that in my information and 
>>>>>>>>> what could I pass to them to help debug the issue please? Is there a 
>>>>>>>>> way to 
>>>>>>>>> capture the information being sent to Weewx via the driver?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interestingly if I create a new Weewx db file, start weewx with 
>>>>>>>>> simulator and then swap to the vantage driver it seems to work ok.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I went the Weewx route because I saw that the help from the 
>>>>>>>>> developers and users was fantastic. Unfortunately your blanket and 
>>>>>>>>> somewhat 
>>>>>>>>> unhelpful statement dims that a little. I hope this isn't starting to 
>>>>>>>>> shape 
>>>>>>>>> up as 'he said, she said' problem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I really like this software so hopefully there is a solution here 
>>>>>>>>> somewhere :) 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 29 October 2018 14:57:48 UTC+13, Thomas Keffer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you ask the WeatherDuino people about this? Clearly, 
>>>>>>>>>> your instrument is emitting some strange timestamps and archive 
>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -tk
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 6:43 PM Colin Larsen <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if the Pi I'm using is a little cranky now - so many 
>>>>>>>>>>> confusing problems popping up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just saw this one in the log - another time anomaly though - 
>>>>>>>>>>> 27392398.74 seconds fast ????
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 29 14:37:01 raspberrypi weewx[10296]: engine: Starting up 
>>>>>>>>>>> weewx version 3.8.2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 29 14:37:01 raspberrypi weewx[10296]: engine: Clock error is 
>>>>>>>>>>> 27392398.74 seconds (positive is fast)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 29 14:37:02 raspberrypi weewx[10296]: vantage: Clock set to 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-10-29 14:37:02 NZDT (1540777022)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 29 14:37:02 raspberrypi weewx[10296]: manager: Unable to add 
>>>>>>>>>>> record 2018-10-29 14:35:00 NZDT (1540776900) to database 
>>>>>>>>>>> 'weewx.sdb': 
>>>>>>>>>>> UNIQUE constraint failed: archive.dateTime
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 29 14:37:02 raspberrypi weewx[10296]: engine: Internal error 
>>>>>>>>>>> detected. Catchup abandoned
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 29 14:37:02 raspberrypi weewx[10296]: **** Unknown archive 
>>>>>>>>>>> type = 0x7a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 29 14:37:02 raspberrypi weewx[10296]: engine: Starting main 
>>>>>>>>>>> packet loop.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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