Wow! 15 times the price? Vantage stations are good, but not that good!

-tk

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:01 AM Miloslav Pawlica <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I also agree with you, I was originally meaning "cheap" stations. Vantage
> Pro price is for example 15 times higher then price of FineOffset WH1080.
> It would be nice to have better station, but I do not want to invest so
> much, regardless how great this station is.
>
> My second station is Ventus 831. This stations do not suffer from hw
> issues like FineOffset WH1080, but it time to time lose sensor connection
> and then connection "refresh" must be done, which is sometimes for me
> impossible to do, because station is located in remote location.
>
> Nothing is perfect :o)
>
> Still after I have experienced permanent memory failure on one station, I
> will switch both my stations to software generation and limit
> pooling/archive intervals. Hopefully this will fix it. It is pretty funny,
> because originally I was only fighting lifespan problem of SDcards on RPI,
> I was stupid to not think about same issue on weather station :-D
>
> Dne pátek 3. ledna 2020 16:13:50 UTC+1 Thomas Keffer napsal(a):
>>
>> In my experience, usb-connected devices are *more* reliable because they
>> are not dependent on network connections.  My Vantage Pro has 14+ years of
>> data without a single record missing. That's very hard to do with
>> networked-based solutions.
>>
>> Vendors are moving to cloud-based solutions not to increase reliability,
>> but because most users want "plug and play," it allows vendors to charge a
>> subscription forever, and they end up owning the data.
>>
>> -tk
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 7:08 AM Miloslav Pawlica <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually it is not. I did that, restarted weewx and nothing has change.
>>> I think that I'm starting to understand that.
>>>
>>> Pooling interval is only used for plugins like RapidFire for WU. So the
>>> best option to lower stress put on station is to leave archive_interval as
>>> default 30 minutes, extended pooling interval from 60s to more and then use
>>> some plugin to export live-pooled data.  If we do not use RapidFire or
>>> similar plugin, pooling interval has not really purpose, so you can set it
>>> to longer period to avoid unnecessary usb lockups and weather stations
>>> restarts. I believe that this will significantly extend station lifespan.
>>>
>>> Actually it is funny, how much problems we can get with USB connected
>>> weather stations. This explains why are stations Vendors slowly leaving
>>> this solution and moving to cloud enabled devices. I do not see real
>>> benefit of it for power users, except less hardware problems and conflicts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dne pátek 3. ledna 2020 14:49:14 UTC+1 Thomas Keffer napsal(a):
>>>>
>>>> The key is to change option record_generation from 'hardware' to
>>>> 'software':
>>>>
>>>> [StdArchive]
>>>>
>>>>     record_generation = software
>>>>
>>>> -tk
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 5:03 AM Miloslav Pawlica <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, I hope that somebody can explain it to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use weewx for 3 years now. My first weather stations WH1080 just
>>>>> died. Its memory is completely dead, do not stores any data and Weewx is
>>>>> not able communicate with station over usb. So I got new station. It is
>>>>> again WH1080.
>>>>>
>>>>> With same configuration as before, like 5 minutes archive_interval the
>>>>> station will again die in 3 years. I would like to avoid that. Therefore I
>>>>> have deiced to use archive_interval 30 minutes, to save memory from too
>>>>> many writes.Still I would like to update date by weewx more often then
>>>>> every 30 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I understand correctly Weewx is able to read just live data from
>>>>> Weather station, so there should be no real reason to use internal memory
>>>>> of device. So when software data generation is configured, pooling is set
>>>>> to 10 minutes weewx should simply created its outputs every 10 minutes 
>>>>> from
>>>>> its own software database located on server and then push data to ftp.
>>>>> Still, it does not work like this. Whatever I configure, weewx ignores it
>>>>> and use station hardware archive_interval and output is generated only
>>>>> every 30 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> My question is, why does weewx has option like archive_interval if it
>>>>> is ignored or what is the reason for pooling from station every 60 
>>>>> seconds,
>>>>> when archive interval is much longer?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was reading all posts here regarding weewx and Fineoffset stations.
>>>>> Still I do not see a way how to make it work better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks :o)
>>>>>
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