It looks like the workaround Rich suggested works.

A couple of notes:

1. the generated filename must be in quotes (#include raw "generated file 
name")
    - the Cheetah generator will throw an error if not.

2. There must not be 'raw' arguments in index.html.tmpl
    - I left them in after previous debugging
    - if they are in, the Cheetah generator will not parse the generated 
file and the Cheetah directive will 
      be display in the output HTML.

I will be putting a control in my extension to enable/disable this 
workaround.

Again, thanks to Rich and others for helping with this.

Regards,

Garry

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 10:16:26 AM UTC-8 [email protected] 
wrote:

> Thanks to Vince, Rich and all who took the time to investigate this 
> problem.
>
> Happy that it’s not WeeWX or Belchertown, two fine programs!
>
> I hope to release my WXFeeds service extension within the next few days.
>
> Regards,
>
> Garry
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 8:19:32 AM UTC-8 vince wrote:
>
>> Well FWIW, it's not Belchertown.    I took my minimalist demo-skin and 
>> aded the one include line in it and boy does it grow.....
>>
>> Two tests with a restart that's obvious.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 7:07:23 AM UTC-8 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven’t made any changes yet but in thinking about your workaround, it 
>>> will be interesting to see if Cheetah actuality processes the included 
>>> include file or if it skips it because the outer include file’s attributes 
>>> are static.
>>>
>>> If Cheetah doesn’t process the inner include file, it still should be a 
>>> way to inject the ‘raw’ argument without having to edit ‘index.html.tmpl’. 
>>>  That is, my code would generate both the outer and inner include files 
>>> each cycle, with the outer include file containing the ‘raw’ argument as 
>>> you suggest.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Garry Lockyer
>>> C: +1.250.689.0686 <(250)%20689-0686>
>>> E: [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2021, at 06:24, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Note, it is growing - just much slower.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 09:13:35 UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Garry,
>>>> I might have a workaround for you. Wrap your html file in a template. 
>>>> something like this.
>>>> index.html.tmp (this is in the belchertown skin)
>>>> #include index_hook_after_charts.inc
>>>>
>>>> index_hook_after_charts.inc (this is the 'wrapper', naturally if you 
>>>> 'owned' index.html.tmpl you would not need it)
>>>> #include raw generated.html
>>>>
>>>> generated.html (the file you generate - name as you want)
>>>> your html
>>>>
>>>> I ran this on my loop 10,000 times and saw no appreciable memory 
>>>> increase and performed better too.
>>>> rich
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 19 January 2021 at 22:45:42 UTC-5 [email protected] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to all for poking at this!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Garry Lockyer
>>>>> C: +1.250.689.0686 <(250)%20689-0686>
>>>>> E: [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 19:38, vince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a followup - I took belchertown out of the picture and used my 
>>>>> minimal demo-skin and added 'one line' that #include(d) a file generated 
>>>>> by 
>>>>> Garry's service, and it 'is' leaking memory albeit less quickly than the 
>>>>> belchertown example.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll let it run overnight and we'll see what it looks like after 12 
>>>>> more hours running.   The VM is set to only 1GB RAM but I'm hoping if it 
>>>>> runs out it'll just go into swap and stay up.    OS is debian 10 under 
>>>>> Vagrant/VirtualBox with 4.3.0 installed using python3 and setup.py
>>>>>
>>>>> Some mem.sdb output (date/time, units, interval, mem_size, mem_rss, 
>>>>> mem_share)...
>>>>>
>>>>> 1611109216 16 5 141.0625 71.734375 12.2734375
>>>>> 1611109516 16 5 142.5625 75.65234375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611109816 16 5 144.0625 79.65625 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611110116 16 5 145.5625 84.5234375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611110416 16 5 147.24609375 88.0859375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611110716 16 5 148.49609375 91.43359375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611111016 16 5 149.99609375 95.421875 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611111316 16 5 151.49609375 100.3359375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611111616 16 5 152.99609375 103.8359375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611111916 16 5 154.49609375 107.51171875 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611112216 16 5 155.99609375 111.5 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611112516 16 5 157.24609375 116.0859375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611112816 16 5 158.74609375 119.5859375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611113116 16 5 160.24609375 123.24609375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611113416 16 5 161.74609375 127.234375 12.3359375
>>>>> 1611113716 16 5 163.24609375 132.11328125 12.3359375
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 5:21:31 PM UTC-8 [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, my standalone testcase was wrong. I think I have a valid one 
>>>>>> here, https://github.com/bellrichm/experiments
>>>>>> It just calls Cheetah.Template.Template in a loop.  If the include 
>>>>>> file modified attribute does not change, all seems stable. If it 
>>>>>> changes, 
>>>>>> memory usage seems to grow.
>>>>>> rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 19 January 2021 at 19:16:46 UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not quite following this discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Cheetah, you can compile the template and save the results. I 
>>>>>>> believe this is what monitors the changed status of #include files. 
>>>>>>> But, 
>>>>>>> that's not the way WeeWX uses templates. It compiles, evaluates, then 
>>>>>>> throws the results away. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you use the "raw" directive in an #include, then the file will 
>>>>>>> not be parsed. So, how can any $ directives work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or, does Belchertown work differently?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -tk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:55 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree that something does not seem quite right with Cheetah’s 
>>>>>>>> ‘monitoring’ of include files. I took a different approach.
>>>>>>>> First, I wrote a simple WeeWX service that would perform the 
>>>>>>>> ‘touch’ command against the large file and a simple template that 
>>>>>>>> included 
>>>>>>>> the large file. When the file modified attribute changed, I observed 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> memory growth, otherwise all was stable. Also, when the file was not 
>>>>>>>> ‘touched’ the Cheetah processing was noticeably faster.
>>>>>>>> Next I wrote a standalone program to run a loop that ran the touch 
>>>>>>>> command and invoke Cheetah.  I ran it 3 times. Each time around loop 
>>>>>>>> 90, 
>>>>>>>> the memory growth stopped and the processing was fast as though 
>>>>>>>> Cheetah was 
>>>>>>>> using cached data. 
>>>>>>>> I am back to running under WeeWX to see if it will level off like 
>>>>>>>> it does standalone. I am also wading through the Cheetah  code and 
>>>>>>>> documentation.  As of now, I thoroughly confused. 
>>>>>>>> rich
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 19 January 2021 at 15:55:38 UTC-5 [email protected] 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wasn't happy leaving this is as is so I did some more testing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I looked in /home/weewx/bin/user/belchertown.py for any mention of 
>>>>>>>>> the 4 include files it uses to add content - nothing there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, I looked in /home/weewx/skins/Belchertown/index.html.templ and 
>>>>>>>>> found 4 lines that reference the include files - they are of the form:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 #if 
>>>>>>>>> os.path.exists("index_hook_after_station_info.inc")
>>>>>>>>>                 <!-- Start of index_hook_after_station_info row -->
>>>>>>>>>                 <div class="row index-hook-after-station-info 
>>>>>>>>> border-bottom">
>>>>>>>>>                     #include "index_hook_after_station_info.inc"
>>>>>>>>>                 </div>
>>>>>>>>>                 <!-- End of index_hook_after_station_info row -->
>>>>>>>>>                 #end if
>>>>>>>>> That caused me to look up the Cheetah '#include'  directive:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "7.6 #include
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Syntax:
>>>>>>>>> #include [raw] FILENAME_EXPR #include [raw] source=STRING_EXPR 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The #include directive is used to include text from outside the 
>>>>>>>>> template definition. The text can come from an external file or from 
>>>>>>>>> a $placeholder variable. When working with external files, Cheetah 
>>>>>>>>> will 
>>>>>>>>> monitor for changes to the included file and update as necessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This example demonstrates its use with external files:
>>>>>>>>> #include "includeFileName.txt" 
>>>>>>>>> The content of "includeFileName.txt" will be parsed for Cheetah 
>>>>>>>>> syntax.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And this example demonstrates use with $placeholder variables:
>>>>>>>>> #include source=$myParseText 
>>>>>>>>> The value of $myParseText will be parsed for Cheetah syntax. This 
>>>>>>>>> is not the same as simply placing the $placeholder tag 
>>>>>>>>> ``$myParseText'' in 
>>>>>>>>> the template definition. In the latter case, the value of 
>>>>>>>>> $myParseText 
>>>>>>>>> would not be parsed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By default, included text will be parsed for Cheetah tags. The 
>>>>>>>>> argument ``raw'' can be used to suppress the parsing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #include raw "includeFileName.txt" #include raw 
>>>>>>>>> source=$myParseText 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheetah wraps each chunk of #include text inside a 
>>>>>>>>> nested Template object. Each nested template has a copy of the main 
>>>>>>>>> template's searchList. However, #set variables are visible across 
>>>>>>>>> includes 
>>>>>>>>> only if the defined using the #set global keyword.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All directives must be balanced in the include file. That is, if 
>>>>>>>>> you start a #for or #if block inside the include, you must end it in 
>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> same include. (This is unlike PHP, which allows unbalanced constructs 
>>>>>>>>> in 
>>>>>>>>> include files.)"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I decided to insert the 'raw' argument into the 4 '#include' 
>>>>>>>>> directives to see if anything changed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After about 1 hour. memory usage did not grow above about 65 MB!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just removed the 'raw' argument and restarted WeeWX.  After just 
>>>>>>>>> a few minutes, memory usage is almost 300 MB and growing!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As before, the station website is at: 
>>>>>>>>> https://lockyer.ca/weather/OsoyoosLakeNorthEast and the mem 
>>>>>>>>> graphs are at https://lockyer.ca/weather/OsoyoosLakeNorthEast/mem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, I think I have conclusively shown  that the problem is within 
>>>>>>>>> Cheetah and is related to it parsing an include file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to re-insert the 'raw' arguments and carry on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should I report this issue to the Cheetah folks or is there 
>>>>>>>>> someone closer to the Cheetah developers that can better do that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 9:27:42 AM UTC-8 
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think I've done all that I can to isolate the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to get back to finishing up development and add a cron 
>>>>>>>>>> entry to restart WeeWX every 24 hours in the wee hours of the 
>>>>>>>>>> morning.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will be re-deploying a Davis Pro 2 system very soon (within the 
>>>>>>>>>> week) and then deploying another Davis Pro 2 system shortly after 
>>>>>>>>>> that.  
>>>>>>>>>> And sometime after than, a couple of WeatherFlow Tempest systems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll post everything on GitHub soonest.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>>>> PS: Re: Ubuntu Desktop on RPi, I've been using it for development 
>>>>>>>>>> for the last few days and it has not crashed or hung, so I think I'm 
>>>>>>>>>> going 
>>>>>>>>>> to stay with it.  Only issue is wireless mouse lag (Raspberry Pi OS 
>>>>>>>>>> had 
>>>>>>>>>> same/similar problem) and I've ordered a Logitech MK540 wireless 
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard/mouse combo to see if newer hardwaere works better (than my 
>>>>>>>>>> dated 
>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft mouse).
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 5:40:15 PM UTC-8 vince wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Restarted with your add-on plus belchertown both enabled - the 
>>>>>>>>>>> RSS is nominally growing at 4 MB per 5-minute archive period.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1610928917 139.53125 63.97265625 15.453125
>>>>>>>>>>> 1610929217 143.02734375 70.41796875 15.4921875
>>>>>>>>>>> 1610929517 144.46484375 74.43359375 15.4921875
>>>>>>>>>>> 1610929817 145.96484375 78.48046875 15.55078125
>>>>>>>>>>> 1610930117 147.46484375 82.65625 15.58203125
>>>>>>>>>>> 1610930417 149.09375 86.69921875 15.58203125
>>>>>>>>>>> 1610930717 150.34375 90.55078125 15.58203125
>>>>>>>>>>> 1610931017 151.84375 94.203125 15.24609375
>>>>>>>>>>>
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