Would it be possible to post a step by step instruction for your changes if
not too much trouble?

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 3:01 PM Garry A Lockyer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> The workaround is to have “static” index hook files that each just have 1
> Cheetah directive in them.  That directive has the ‘raw’ argument.  For my
> extension, I will implement the work around, using
> “index-hook-after-station-info.inc” (and assuming I got the file name
> correct!) as the example, such that:
>
> index-hook-after-station-info.inc contains:
>
> #include raw “WXFeeds-index-hook-after-station-info.inc”
>
> and is not re-created.
>
> My extension will generate “WXFeeds-index-hook-after-station-info.inc”
> each archive cycle.
>
> I don’t think any changes to Belchertown are required other than perhaps a
> warning that memory usage can increase if the hooks are used without the
> workaround (until the Cheetah generator is fixed).
>
> Thanks for your time, attention and the Belchertown skin!
>
> Regards,
>
> Garry Lockyer
> C: +1.250.689.0686
> E: [email protected]
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2021, at 12:00, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm tracking this thread a bit slowly... Is the raw portion within the
> #include custom to your setup - or is this something that should be added
> to the Belchertown skin?
>
> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 12:47:26 PM UTC-5 [email protected]
> wrote:
>
>> It looks like the workaround Rich suggested works.
>>
>> A couple of notes:
>>
>> 1. the generated filename must be in quotes (#include raw "generated file
>> name")
>>     - the Cheetah generator will throw an error if not.
>>
>> 2. There must not be 'raw' arguments in index.html.tmpl
>>     - I left them in after previous debugging
>>     - if they are in, the Cheetah generator will not parse the generated
>> file and the Cheetah directive will
>>       be display in the output HTML.
>>
>> I will be putting a control in my extension to enable/disable this
>> workaround.
>>
>> Again, thanks to Rich and others for helping with this.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Garry
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 10:16:26 AM UTC-8 [email protected]
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to Vince, Rich and all who took the time to investigate this
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Happy that it’s not WeeWX or Belchertown, two fine programs!
>>>
>>> I hope to release my WXFeeds service extension within the next few days.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Garry
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 8:19:32 AM UTC-8 vince wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well FWIW, it's not Belchertown.    I took my minimalist demo-skin and
>>>> aded the one include line in it and boy does it grow.....
>>>>
>>>> Two tests with a restart that's obvious.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 7:07:23 AM UTC-8 [email protected]
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I haven’t made any changes yet but in thinking about your workaround,
>>>>> it will be interesting to see if Cheetah actuality processes the included
>>>>> include file or if it skips it because the outer include file’s attributes
>>>>> are static.
>>>>>
>>>>> If Cheetah doesn’t process the inner include file, it still should be
>>>>> a way to inject the ‘raw’ argument without having to edit
>>>>> ‘index.html.tmpl’.  That is, my code would generate both the outer and
>>>>> inner include files each cycle, with the outer include file containing the
>>>>> ‘raw’ argument as you suggest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Garry Lockyer
>>>>> C: +1.250.689.0686 <(250)%20689-0686>
>>>>> E: [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2021, at 06:24, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Note, it is growing - just much slower.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 09:13:35 UTC-5 [email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Garry,
>>>>>> I might have a workaround for you. Wrap your html file in a template.
>>>>>> something like this.
>>>>>> index.html.tmp (this is in the belchertown skin)
>>>>>> #include index_hook_after_charts.inc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> index_hook_after_charts.inc (this is the 'wrapper', naturally if you
>>>>>> 'owned' index.html.tmpl you would not need it)
>>>>>> #include raw generated.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> generated.html (the file you generate - name as you want)
>>>>>> your html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran this on my loop 10,000 times and saw no appreciable memory
>>>>>> increase and performed better too.
>>>>>> rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 19 January 2021 at 22:45:42 UTC-5 [email protected]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks to all for poking at this!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Garry Lockyer
>>>>>>> C: +1.250.689.0686 <(250)%20689-0686>
>>>>>>> E: [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 19:38, vince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a followup - I took belchertown out of the picture and used my
>>>>>>> minimal demo-skin and added 'one line' that #include(d) a file 
>>>>>>> generated by
>>>>>>> Garry's service, and it 'is' leaking memory albeit less quickly than the
>>>>>>> belchertown example.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll let it run overnight and we'll see what it looks like after 12
>>>>>>> more hours running.   The VM is set to only 1GB RAM but I'm hoping if it
>>>>>>> runs out it'll just go into swap and stay up.    OS is debian 10 under
>>>>>>> Vagrant/VirtualBox with 4.3.0 installed using python3 and setup.py
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some mem.sdb output (date/time, units, interval, mem_size, mem_rss,
>>>>>>> mem_share)...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1611109216 16 5 141.0625 71.734375 12.2734375
>>>>>>> 1611109516 16 5 142.5625 75.65234375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611109816 16 5 144.0625 79.65625 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611110116 16 5 145.5625 84.5234375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611110416 16 5 147.24609375 88.0859375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611110716 16 5 148.49609375 91.43359375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611111016 16 5 149.99609375 95.421875 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611111316 16 5 151.49609375 100.3359375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611111616 16 5 152.99609375 103.8359375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611111916 16 5 154.49609375 107.51171875 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611112216 16 5 155.99609375 111.5 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611112516 16 5 157.24609375 116.0859375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611112816 16 5 158.74609375 119.5859375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611113116 16 5 160.24609375 123.24609375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611113416 16 5 161.74609375 127.234375 12.3359375
>>>>>>> 1611113716 16 5 163.24609375 132.11328125 12.3359375
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 5:21:31 PM UTC-8 [email protected]
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, my standalone testcase was wrong. I think I have a valid one
>>>>>>>> here, https://github.com/bellrichm/experiments
>>>>>>>> It just calls Cheetah.Template.Template in a loop.  If the include
>>>>>>>> file modified attribute does not change, all seems stable. If it 
>>>>>>>> changes,
>>>>>>>> memory usage seems to grow.
>>>>>>>> rich
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 19 January 2021 at 19:16:46 UTC-5 [email protected]
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not quite following this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With Cheetah, you can compile the template and save the results. I
>>>>>>>>> believe this is what monitors the changed status of #include files. 
>>>>>>>>> But,
>>>>>>>>> that's not the way WeeWX uses templates. It compiles, evaluates, then
>>>>>>>>> throws the results away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you use the "raw" directive in an #include, then the file will
>>>>>>>>> not be parsed. So, how can any $ directives work?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or, does Belchertown work differently?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -tk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:55 PM [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree that something does not seem quite right with Cheetah’s
>>>>>>>>>> ‘monitoring’ of include files. I took a different approach.
>>>>>>>>>> First, I wrote a simple WeeWX service that would perform the
>>>>>>>>>> ‘touch’ command against the large file and a simple template that 
>>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>>> the large file. When the file modified attribute changed, I observed 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> memory growth, otherwise all was stable. Also, when the file was not
>>>>>>>>>> ‘touched’ the Cheetah processing was noticeably faster.
>>>>>>>>>> Next I wrote a standalone program to run a loop that ran the
>>>>>>>>>> touch command and invoke Cheetah.  I ran it 3 times. Each time 
>>>>>>>>>> around loop
>>>>>>>>>> 90, the memory growth stopped and the processing was fast as though 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheetah
>>>>>>>>>> was using cached data.
>>>>>>>>>> I am back to running under WeeWX to see if it will level off like
>>>>>>>>>> it does standalone. I am also wading through the Cheetah  code and
>>>>>>>>>> documentation.  As of now, I thoroughly confused.
>>>>>>>>>> rich
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 19 January 2021 at 15:55:38 UTC-5 [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't happy leaving this is as is so I did some more testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I looked in /home/weewx/bin/user/belchertown.py for any mention
>>>>>>>>>>> of the 4 include files it uses to add content - nothing there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, I looked in /home/weewx/skins/Belchertown/index.html.templ
>>>>>>>>>>> and found 4 lines that reference the include files - they are of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the form:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                 #if
>>>>>>>>>>> os.path.exists("index_hook_after_station_info.inc")
>>>>>>>>>>>                 <!-- Start of index_hook_after_station_info row
>>>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>>>>>                 <div class="row index-hook-after-station-info
>>>>>>>>>>> border-bottom">
>>>>>>>>>>>                     #include "index_hook_after_station_info.inc"
>>>>>>>>>>>                 </div>
>>>>>>>>>>>                 <!-- End of index_hook_after_station_info row -->
>>>>>>>>>>>                 #end if
>>>>>>>>>>> That caused me to look up the Cheetah '#include'  directive:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "7.6 #include
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Syntax:
>>>>>>>>>>> #include [raw] FILENAME_EXPR #include [raw] source=STRING_EXPR
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The #include directive is used to include text from outside the
>>>>>>>>>>> template definition. The text can come from an external file or from
>>>>>>>>>>> a $placeholder variable. When working with external files, Cheetah 
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> monitor for changes to the included file and update as necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This example demonstrates its use with external files:
>>>>>>>>>>> #include "includeFileName.txt"
>>>>>>>>>>> The content of "includeFileName.txt" will be parsed for Cheetah
>>>>>>>>>>> syntax.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And this example demonstrates use with $placeholder variables:
>>>>>>>>>>> #include source=$myParseText
>>>>>>>>>>> The value of $myParseText will be parsed for Cheetah syntax.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is not the same as simply placing the $placeholder tag
>>>>>>>>>>> ``$myParseText'' in the template definition. In the latter case, 
>>>>>>>>>>> the value
>>>>>>>>>>> of $myParseText would not be parsed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> By default, included text will be parsed for Cheetah tags. The
>>>>>>>>>>> argument ``raw'' can be used to suppress the parsing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> #include raw "includeFileName.txt" #include raw
>>>>>>>>>>> source=$myParseText
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheetah wraps each chunk of #include text inside a
>>>>>>>>>>> nested Template object. Each nested template has a copy of the main
>>>>>>>>>>> template's searchList. However, #set variables are visible across 
>>>>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>>> only if the defined using the #set global keyword.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All directives must be balanced in the include file. That is, if
>>>>>>>>>>> you start a #for or #if block inside the include, you must end it 
>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>> same include. (This is unlike PHP, which allows unbalanced 
>>>>>>>>>>> constructs in
>>>>>>>>>>> include files.)"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I decided to insert the 'raw' argument into the 4 '#include'
>>>>>>>>>>> directives to see if anything changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After about 1 hour. memory usage did not grow above about 65 MB!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just removed the 'raw' argument and restarted WeeWX.  After
>>>>>>>>>>> just a few minutes, memory usage is almost 300 MB and growing!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As before, the station website is at:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://lockyer.ca/weather/OsoyoosLakeNorthEast and the mem
>>>>>>>>>>> graphs are at
>>>>>>>>>>> https://lockyer.ca/weather/OsoyoosLakeNorthEast/mem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, I think I have conclusively shown  that the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>> within Cheetah and is related to it parsing an include file.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to re-insert the 'raw' arguments and carry on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Should I report this issue to the Cheetah folks or is there
>>>>>>>>>>> someone closer to the Cheetah developers that can better do that?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 9:27:42 AM UTC-8
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I've done all that I can to isolate the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to get back to finishing up development and add a
>>>>>>>>>>>> cron entry to restart WeeWX every 24 hours in the wee hours of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> morning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be re-deploying a Davis Pro 2 system very soon (within
>>>>>>>>>>>> the week) and then deploying another Davis Pro 2 system shortly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>> that.  And sometime after than, a couple of WeatherFlow Tempest 
>>>>>>>>>>>> systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll post everything on GitHub soonest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Garry
>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: Re: Ubuntu Desktop on RPi, I've been using it for
>>>>>>>>>>>> development for the last few days and it has not crashed or hung, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> so I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think I'm going to stay with it.  Only issue is wireless mouse lag
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Raspberry Pi OS had same/similar problem) and I've ordered a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Logitech
>>>>>>>>>>>> MK540 wireless keyboard/mouse combo to see if newer hardwaere 
>>>>>>>>>>>> works better
>>>>>>>>>>>> (than my dated Microsoft mouse).
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 5:40:15 PM UTC-8 vince wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Restarted with your add-on plus belchertown both enabled - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSS is nominally growing at 4 MB per 5-minute archive period.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1610928917 139.53125 63.97265625 15.453125
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1610929217 143.02734375 70.41796875 15.4921875
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1610929517 144.46484375 74.43359375 15.4921875
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1610929817 145.96484375 78.48046875 15.55078125
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1610930117 147.46484375 82.65625 15.58203125
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1610930417 149.09375 86.69921875 15.58203125
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1610930717 150.34375 90.55078125 15.58203125
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1610931017 151.84375 94.203125 15.24609375
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