Sorry, autocorrect problem. I should say that I run a second instance of 
WeeWX not WeeWX-WD.

Gary

On Saturday, 6 February 2021 at 11:08:08 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote:

> Good points. Thanks, Gary.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:42 PM gjr80 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I’m not sure MySQL is the issue per se, rather I suspect the remote 
>> connection. The main WeeWX-WD template testtags.php.tmpl has some 1000 odd 
>> $day, $month, $year tags; of the other four clientraw templates there is 
>> some 500 $day, $month, $year tags  And we haven’t even gotten to the search 
>> list extensions of which there are numerous and some quite database 
>> intensive. I run WeeWX-WD on a RPi 3B+ along with about 10 other skins and 
>> and my total report generation time is just over 45 seconds. That is using 
>> MySQL locally and running a second instance of WeeWX-WD to support a GW1000.
>>
>> I recall in the syslog extract extract there was a lost connection to the 
>> MySQL server, seems to me to point to some issues accessing the remote 
>> database server.
>>
>> Gary
>> On Saturday, 6 February 2021 at 08:18:51 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> If it's on a remote server, it can still be a problem. 
>>>
>>> A tag like $day.outTemp.max involves a simple database lookup. A typical 
>>> skin can have hundreds of such tags, resulting in hundreds of queries. 
>>> SQLite excels at these kinds of frequent small queries, MySQL does not.
>>>
>>> Try running with sqlite and see if it makes a difference. It's just a 
>>> few options in your configuration file to give it a go.
>>>
>>> -tk
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 1:34 PM Tim Lambert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> MySQL is on a remote/hosted server – it is not running on the Pi.   
>>>> I’ve provided the connection parameters in the weewx.conf 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Tom Keffer
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2021 1:31 PM
>>>> *To: *weewx-user
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [weewx-user] Re: WEEWX-WD and Weewx 4.2 to 4.4
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Your machine should be more than capable of running weewx.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> However, your weak spot is probably MySQL, particularly if you are 
>>>> running it on an SD card. MySQL is *much* slower than sqlite.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> See the wiki article *SQLite vs MySQL 
>>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/SQLite-vs-MySQL>*.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 12:55 PM vince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You have something major happening on that pi of yours. Here's some 
>>>> data from a clean RaspiOS and newly installed weewx running the Simulator 
>>>> driver on a 4GB pi4...
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Basically no RAM usage....
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> root@pi4p1:/home/weewx# free
>>>>
>>>>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   
>>>> available
>>>>
>>>> Mem:        3919788       72836     3516564        8620      330388     
>>>> 3705176
>>>>
>>>> Swap:        102396           0      102396
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> And no CPU usage....
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> root@pi4p1:/home/weewx# uptime
>>>>
>>>>  11:50:49 up 40 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.01
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Logs for the first couple cycles - the initial time for a skin is 
>>>> always longer than the normal time after that....
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO __main__: Starting up weewx 
>>>> version 4.4.0
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.engine: Clock error is 
>>>> -0.09 seconds (positive is fast)
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.engine: Using binding 
>>>> 'wx_binding' to database 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Starting backfill 
>>>> of daily summaries
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Empty database
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.engine: Starting main 
>>>> packet loop.
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:35:16 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>>> 2021-02-05 11:35:00 AKST (1612557300) to database 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:35:16 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>>> 2021-02-05 11:35:00 AKST (1612557300) to daily summary in 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:35:18 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>>> Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 1.79 seconds
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:35:25 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 
>>>> 60 images for report SeasonsReport in 6.35 seconds
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:35:25 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.reportengine: Copied 5 
>>>> files to /home/weewx/public_html
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:40:16 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>>> 2021-02-05 11:40:00 AKST (1612557600) to database 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:40:16 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>>> 2021-02-05 11:40:00 AKST (1612557600) to daily summary in 'weewx.sdb'
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:40:17 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>>> Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 0.80 seconds
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 11:40:18 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 
>>>> 15 images for report SeasonsReport in 0.51 seconds
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 11:29:56 AM UTC-8 tim lambert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Is the issue CPU or RAM? 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I’m running a Pi 4 with 4gb of RAM.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Hi-Tech Etch-A-Sketch
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:11, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that the machine running weewx doesn't have enough 
>>>> "oomph" to run all the reports you are asking of it in two minutes. For 
>>>> example, here's the results of one reporting cycle:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Feb  5 09:00:23 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>>> Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 95.95 seconds
>>>> Feb  5 09:00:31 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 
>>>> 15 images for report SeasonsReport in 7.99 seconds
>>>> Feb  5 09:00:32 murph weewx[15605] INFO user.stackedwindrose: Generated 
>>>> 1 images for wdStackedWindRose in 1.11 seconds
>>>> Feb  5 09:02:05 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>>> Generated 1 files for report wdTesttags in 93.15 seconds
>>>> Feb  5 09:02:53 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>>> Generated 2 files for report wdClientraw in 47.34 seconds
>>>> Feb  5 09:03:19 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>>> Generated 2 files for report SteelSeries in 8.65 seconds
>>>> Feb  5 09:03:25 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 
>>>> 11 images for report SteelSeries in 5.64 seconds
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> That adds up to almost 300 seconds --- way more than the 120 seconds 
>>>> you are giving it. You will either have to go to a much longer reporting 
>>>> cycle (5 minutes may not even do it), or pare down the number of reports, 
>>>> or simplify the reports, or get a more capable server.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> -tk
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 10:11 AM Tim Lambert <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Attached is the logfile for 2 cycles.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 45 @ 08:56:54 – The 120sec Interval for wwewx.engine is loaded
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 137 –  Line 141 @ 08:58:33 – The Remote MySQL DB is being 
>>>> updated
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 143 @ 08:58:47 – The rpt.engine starts
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 218 @ 09:00:40 – Error  weewx.engine unable to shutdown 
>>>> StdReport thread
>>>>
>>>> Then it appears weew opted to perform a restart by itself 
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 333 – Line 337 @ 09:02:32 – The Remote MySQL DB is being 
>>>> updated
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 353 @ 09:02:53 – Start FTP
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 421 @ 09:03:11 – End FTP
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 423 @ 09:03:11 – Run SS
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 471 @ 09:04:22 – Start Reports
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 487 – Line 491 – The Remote MySQL DB is being updated
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 492 @ 09:04:48 – Report Thread is aborted, existing Report 
>>>> Thread is running
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 552 @ 09:06:40– Error  weewx.engine unable to shutdown 
>>>> StdReport thread
>>>>
>>>> Then it appears weew opted to perform a restart by itself
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 653 @ 09:08:05 – Start FTP
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 716 @ 09:08:23 – End FTP
>>>>
>>>> Per Line 723 @ 09:08:32 – Run SS
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Hope the above analysis helps pinpoint the problem.   
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I’m concerned about the Error related to the shutdown of the StdReport 
>>>> Thread and the subsequent automatic restart.  My other concern is the 
>>>> aborting the Report Thread, because the existing Report Thread is still 
>>>> running.   Both appear to be impacting the 120 second interval to generate 
>>>> reports and subsequently FTP, as well as the write of the DB every 120 
>>>> seconds.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in Advance for your help.   
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Tom Keffer
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:20 PM
>>>> *To: *weewx-user
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [weewx-user] Re: WEEWX-WD and Weewx 4.2 to 4.4
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> That station (using the ip100 driver) does not support hardware record 
>>>> generation, so WeeWX will fall back on software record generation. If you 
>>>> are still getting 5 minute updates despite setting archive_interval to 
>>>> 120, 
>>>> then one of two things is happening:
>>>>
>>>> 1.       weewxd is using a different configuration file than you think 
>>>> it is; or
>>>>
>>>> 2.       You didn't restart weewxd after changing the value.
>>>>
>>>> If neither of those are true, then we will need to see the log. Set 
>>>> debug=1, restart weewx, post the log from startup through the first 
>>>> reporting cycle.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> tk
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:41 PM Tim <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> The station is a RainWise MK-III with an IP-100.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Hi-Tech Etch-A-Sketch
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 4, 2021, at 14:20, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> You didn't say what kind of weather station you are using, but for 
>>>> stations that support hardware logging and if you specify hardware record 
>>>> generation,  then weewx will use the interval specified in your hardware.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> If this is the case, then to change use the wee_device utility with the 
>>>> --set-interval option. For example, to change to two minutes:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *wee_device --set-interval=2*
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> -tk
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:12 AM tim lambert <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Gary,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I'm taking things in baby steps. 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Earlier this week I successfully upgraded from weewx 4.2 to weewx 4.4 
>>>> (which was surprisingly easy with how weewx addresses upgrades).   
>>>> Everything is stable, so I'm moving onward to the next steps.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I've taken the route to implement WeeWX SteelSeries Weather Gauges 
>>>> extension (not real-time yet) and WeeWX-WD v2.1.2 -- everything installed 
>>>> and I can see the SteelGauge info on my remotely hosted website, as well 
>>>> as 
>>>> see the clientraw.text and other key files for Saratoga Templates on the 
>>>> remotely hosted server.   
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> However, even though I have the archive_interval in weewx.conf set to 
>>>> 120 (seconds) the FTP of the files generated by weewx is occurring every 
>>>> 300 seconds (5 minutes) -- which I confirmed from reviewing the log 
>>>> files.   How can I get the FTP to execute every 120 seconds?
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> FYI, weewx.conf for Standard Archive is
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *[StdArchive]    archive_interval = 120    record_generation = 
>>>> hardware    loop_hilo = True    data_binding = wx_binding*
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Should I change the record_generation to software?   Noting the 
>>>> Rainwise IP-100 is inserting records into the MySQL database tables every 
>>>> minute -- which is what I want.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in Advance for your guidance!
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> -- Tim
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 8:35:31 PM UTC-8 tim lambert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Gary for the insight and guidance.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
>>>> Windows 10
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From: *gjr80
>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, January 30, 2021 7:58 PM
>>>> *To: *weewx-user
>>>> *Subject: *[weewx-user] Re: WEEWX-WD and Weewx 4.2 to 4.4
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't be using WeeWX-WD from bitbucket, it has not been touched 
>>>> for some years now. WeeWX-WD on github 
>>>> <https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-weewx-wd> is more up to date, the 
>>>> current version is v2.1.2 from November 2020. It should have no problems 
>>>> running on WeeWX v4.x under python 2 or python3. The SteelSeries 
>>>> Weather Gauges 
>>>> <https://github.com/mcrossley/SteelSeries-Weather-Gauges> have 
>>>> directly supported WeeWX of v2.5.0 (of the SteelSeries Weather Gauges) or 
>>>> for about six years, and there is now a WeeWX SteelSeries Gauges 
>>>> extension <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/steelseries> that 
>>>> installs the necessary skin to support the SteelSeries Weather Gauges 
>>>> (this 
>>>> is the preferred means of providing the SteelSeries Weather Gauges, 
>>>> WeeWX-WD did support the SteelSeries Weather Gauges via the WD 
>>>> customclientraw.txt but since the advent of direct WeeWX support and 
>>>> the WeeWX extension the SteelSeries Weather Gauges support has been 
>>>> deprecated in WeeWX-WD). You should find the WeeWX extension will work 
>>>> under WeeWX v4.x and python2 or python3.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest that you upgrade to WeeWX v4.4.0 and get WeeWX running 
>>>> to your satisfaction before installing either WeeWX-WD v2.1.2 or the WeeWX 
>>>> SteelSeries Weather Gauges extension (in whatever order suits). Once you 
>>>> have the SteelSeries Weather Gauges extension running OK you can, if you 
>>>> want, look at installing the Realtime gauge-data extension 
>>>> <https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-realtime_gauge-data> which will allow 
>>>> the gauges to update on every loop packet rather than on each report cycle 
>>>> (how often they will update will depend on how often your station emits 
>>>> loop packets, for your Rainwise this should be up to every couple of 
>>>> seconds).
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 13:15:24 UTC+10 tim lambert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gang,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Currently running weewx 4.2 (will be upgrading in the next few days to 
>>>> 4.4) on a Raspberry Pi 4 (32-bit OS) with a Rainwise MK-III and IP-100 
>>>> providing station data -- everything has been working properly for several 
>>>> weeks and is populating a remote MySQL DB.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Once I upgrade weewx, I'd like to incorporate using Steel Gauges and 
>>>> Saratoga Templates, hence my query:  Can I utilize the WEEWX-WD as 
>>>> outlined BitBucket 
>>>> Weewx-WD <https://bitbucket.org/ozgreg/weewx-wd/wiki/Users%20Guide>?
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> The Steel Gauges and Saratoga Templates will be hosted on a remote, 
>>>> public accessible server -- so I'll be sending the clientraw and testtag 
>>>> files via FTP.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in Advance!
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> - Tim
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