Team,

A quick update...

I've completed standing up WeeWx 4.4 on a dedicated (for now) Pi 4, with 
the IP-100 extension using the Seasons Skins and FTP the Seasons 
reports/graphs to a remote public server.  The performance stats are:

*Seasons Reports == 1.21 seconds*
*Season Images == 0.54 seconds*
*FTP == 6.89 seconds*
*Total Processing Time == 8.64 seconds*

Next I added in writing to to a MariaDB on a 1TB hard drive connected 
directly to the Pi4.   The aforementioned performance stats did not change.

Next, I implemented the WD Extension, using the local MariaDB to write the 
databases suggested by WD Extensions.  The performance stats:

*Seasons Reports == 1.21 seconds*
*Seasons Images == 0.60 seconds*
*WD Files (testtags, windrose & clientraw files) == 1.13 seconds*
*FTP == 8.26 seconds*
*Total Processing Time == 11.20 seconds*

Finally, I added in the Steel Gauges, which the average performance stats:

*Seasons Reports == 2.42 seconds*
*Seasons Images == 0.63 seconds*

* WD Files (testtags, windrose & clientraw files) == 4.27 seconds *
*Steel Gauges == 0.74 seconds*

*FTP == 16.02 seconds*
*Total Processing Time == 24.08 seconds*

Note:  the only other delta between the original configuration and the new 
configuration, besides moving the MySQL/MariaDB from a remote/hosted server 
to a local server with an HD -- the original configuration also had 
consoleWD from Weather Display.

Conclusion --  the data exchange between weeWX and the remote/hosted server 
was extremely intensive and thus slowing down the reporting process (which 
Gary and Tom both thought was the root cause).

Thanks for helping me sleuth this one -- hopefully others will benefit from 
the errors in my architecture.

-- Tim

On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 10:57:47 PM UTC-8 tim lambert wrote:

> Thanks everyone for your input...  You have all pointed me to what is 
> beginning to look like the root cause -- using a remote MySQL server.
>
> So far, I've stood up another Pi 4 to be dedicated for weewx (for now).  A 
> basic installation using the Seasons skin -- reports/graphs are generating 
> in roughly 1.2 seconds.  FTP of the public_html is taking 7 seconds.   
>
> Tomorrow, I'll stand up Maria DB (Raspberry version of MySQL) on the same 
> Pi, with the DB being on a 1TB attached drive.   Once Maria DB is installed 
> and configured, I'll add in phpMyAdmin (to help with quick DB Table 
> analysis).   Next will be to install WD Extensions and SS Gauges, which 
> will utilize the DB on the attached drive.  
>
> Hoping for a marked performance improvement -- I'll share my learnings.
>
> -- Tim
>
> On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 6:07:50 PM UTC-8 vince wrote:
>
>> Just for kicks, run "*top*", hit '*1*' to see all the cpu cores 
>> individually, and see if you see anything with a percentage other than 0.0 
>> next to "*ni*" in the output.   That'll help us see if you have things 
>> waiting for i/o.
>>
>> You might need to let it run for a little to watch things start/stop and 
>> change states on the various cpus, but concentrate on the '*ni*' item in 
>> each line there.   To get out of top, hit '*q*' for quit.
>>
>> My pi3 reports the following:
>>
>> top - 18:04:58 up 9 days, 30 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.12, 0.15, 
>> 0.12
>> Tasks: 137 total,   2 running, 135 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
>> %Cpu0  :  4.0 us,  0.3 sy,  0.0 ni, 95.6 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si, 
>>  0.0 st
>> %Cpu1  :  1.0 us,  0.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 99.0 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si, 
>>  0.0 st
>> %Cpu2  :  1.7 us,  0.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 98.3 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si, 
>>  0.0 st
>> %Cpu3  :  0.3 us,  1.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 98.6 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si, 
>>  0.0 st
>> MiB Mem :    926.1 total,     30.5 free,    349.4 used,    546.2 
>> buff/cache
>> MiB Swap:    100.0 total,     98.5 free,      1.5 used.    443.5 avail Mem
>>
>> On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 5:32:33 PM UTC-8 tim lambert wrote:
>>
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I think you hit on the root cause.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I’m standing up another Pi with an external HD attached to support the 
>>> DB – the idea is to keep the DB traffic off the SD card.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From: *gjr80
>>> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
>>> *To: *weewx-user
>>> *Subject: *Re: [weewx-user] Re: WEEWX-WD and Weewx 4.2 to 4.4
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I’m not sure MySQL is the issue per se, rather I suspect the remote 
>>> connection. The main WeeWX-WD template testtags.php.tmpl has some 1000 odd 
>>> $day, $month, $year tags; of the other four clientraw templates there is 
>>> some 500 $day, $month, $year tags  And we haven’t even gotten to the search 
>>> list extensions of which there are numerous and some quite database 
>>> intensive. I run WeeWX-WD on a RPi 3B+ along with about 10 other skins and 
>>> and my total report generation time is just over 45 seconds. That is using 
>>> MySQL locally and running a second instance of WeeWX-WD to support a GW1000.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I recall in the syslog extract extract there was a lost connection to 
>>> the MySQL server, seems to me to point to some issues accessing the remote 
>>> database server.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 6 February 2021 at 08:18:51 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> If it's on a remote server, it can still be a problem. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> A tag like $day.outTemp.max involves a simple database lookup. A typical 
>>> skin can have hundreds of such tags, resulting in hundreds of queries. 
>>> SQLite excels at these kinds of frequent small queries, MySQL does not.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Try running with sqlite and see if it makes a difference. It's just a 
>>> few options in your configuration file to give it a go.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> -tk
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 1:34 PM Tim Lambert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> MySQL is on a remote/hosted server – it is not running on the Pi.   I’ve 
>>> provided the connection parameters in the weewx.conf 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From: *Tom Keffer
>>> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2021 1:31 PM
>>> *To: *weewx-user
>>> *Subject: *Re: [weewx-user] Re: WEEWX-WD and Weewx 4.2 to 4.4
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Your machine should be more than capable of running weewx.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> However, your weak spot is probably MySQL, particularly if you are 
>>> running it on an SD card. MySQL is *much* slower than sqlite.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> See the wiki article *SQLite vs MySQL 
>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/SQLite-vs-MySQL>*.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 12:55 PM vince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> You have something major happening on that pi of yours. Here's some data 
>>> from a clean RaspiOS and newly installed weewx running the Simulator driver 
>>> on a 4GB pi4...
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Basically no RAM usage....
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> root@pi4p1:/home/weewx# free
>>>
>>>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   
>>> available
>>>
>>> Mem:        3919788       72836     3516564        8620      330388     
>>> 3705176
>>>
>>> Swap:        102396           0      102396
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> And no CPU usage....
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> root@pi4p1:/home/weewx# uptime
>>>
>>>  11:50:49 up 40 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.01
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Logs for the first couple cycles - the initial time for a skin is always 
>>> longer than the normal time after that....
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO __main__: Starting up weewx 
>>> version 4.4.0
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.engine: Clock error is 
>>> -0.09 seconds (positive is fast)
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.engine: Using binding 
>>> 'wx_binding' to database 'weewx.sdb'
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Starting backfill 
>>> of daily summaries
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Empty database
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:30:46 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.engine: Starting main 
>>> packet loop.
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:35:16 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>> 2021-02-05 11:35:00 AKST (1612557300) to database 'weewx.sdb'
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:35:16 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>> 2021-02-05 11:35:00 AKST (1612557300) to daily summary in 'weewx.sdb'
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:35:18 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 
>>> 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 1.79 seconds
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:35:25 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 
>>> 60 images for report SeasonsReport in 6.35 seconds
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:35:25 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.reportengine: Copied 5 
>>> files to /home/weewx/public_html
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:40:16 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>> 2021-02-05 11:40:00 AKST (1612557600) to database 'weewx.sdb'
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:40:16 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 
>>> 2021-02-05 11:40:00 AKST (1612557600) to daily summary in 'weewx.sdb'
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:40:17 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 
>>> 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 0.80 seconds
>>>
>>> Feb  5 11:40:18 pi4p1 weewx[1839] INFO weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 
>>> 15 images for report SeasonsReport in 0.51 seconds
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 11:29:56 AM UTC-8 tim lambert wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Is the issue CPU or RAM? 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I’m running a Pi 4 with 4gb of RAM.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Sent from my Hi-Tech Etch-A-Sketch
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:11, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> The problem is that the machine running weewx doesn't have enough 
>>> "oomph" to run all the reports you are asking of it in two minutes. For 
>>> example, here's the results of one reporting cycle:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Feb  5 09:00:23 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>> Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport in 95.95 seconds
>>> Feb  5 09:00:31 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 
>>> 15 images for report SeasonsReport in 7.99 seconds
>>> Feb  5 09:00:32 murph weewx[15605] INFO user.stackedwindrose: Generated 
>>> 1 images for wdStackedWindRose in 1.11 seconds
>>> Feb  5 09:02:05 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>> Generated 1 files for report wdTesttags in 93.15 seconds
>>> Feb  5 09:02:53 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>> Generated 2 files for report wdClientraw in 47.34 seconds
>>> Feb  5 09:03:19 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: 
>>> Generated 2 files for report SteelSeries in 8.65 seconds
>>> Feb  5 09:03:25 murph weewx[15605] INFO weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 
>>> 11 images for report SteelSeries in 5.64 seconds
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> That adds up to almost 300 seconds --- way more than the 120 seconds you 
>>> are giving it. You will either have to go to a much longer reporting cycle 
>>> (5 minutes may not even do it), or pare down the number of reports, or 
>>> simplify the reports, or get a more capable server.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> -tk
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 10:11 AM Tim Lambert <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Attached is the logfile for 2 cycles.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Per Line 45 @ 08:56:54 – The 120sec Interval for wwewx.engine is loaded
>>>
>>> Per Line 137 –  Line 141 @ 08:58:33 – The Remote MySQL DB is being 
>>> updated
>>>
>>> Per Line 143 @ 08:58:47 – The rpt.engine starts
>>>
>>> Per Line 218 @ 09:00:40 – Error  weewx.engine unable to shutdown 
>>> StdReport thread
>>>
>>> Then it appears weew opted to perform a restart by itself 
>>>
>>> Per Line 333 – Line 337 @ 09:02:32 – The Remote MySQL DB is being updated
>>>
>>> Per Line 353 @ 09:02:53 – Start FTP
>>>
>>> Per Line 421 @ 09:03:11 – End FTP
>>>
>>> Per Line 423 @ 09:03:11 – Run SS
>>>
>>> Per Line 471 @ 09:04:22 – Start Reports
>>>
>>> Per Line 487 – Line 491 – The Remote MySQL DB is being updated
>>>
>>> Per Line 492 @ 09:04:48 – Report Thread is aborted, existing Report 
>>> Thread is running
>>>
>>> Per Line 552 @ 09:06:40– Error  weewx.engine unable to shutdown 
>>> StdReport thread
>>>
>>> Then it appears weew opted to perform a restart by itself
>>>
>>> Per Line 653 @ 09:08:05 – Start FTP
>>>
>>> Per Line 716 @ 09:08:23 – End FTP
>>>
>>> Per Line 723 @ 09:08:32 – Run SS
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hope the above analysis helps pinpoint the problem.   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I’m concerned about the Error related to the shutdown of the StdReport 
>>> Thread and the subsequent automatic restart.  My other concern is the 
>>> aborting the Report Thread, because the existing Report Thread is still 
>>> running.   Both appear to be impacting the 120 second interval to generate 
>>> reports and subsequently FTP, as well as the write of the DB every 120 
>>> seconds.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks in Advance for your help.   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From: *Tom Keffer
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:20 PM
>>> *To: *weewx-user
>>> *Subject: *Re: [weewx-user] Re: WEEWX-WD and Weewx 4.2 to 4.4
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> That station (using the ip100 driver) does not support hardware record 
>>> generation, so WeeWX will fall back on software record generation. If you 
>>> are still getting 5 minute updates despite setting archive_interval to 120, 
>>> then one of two things is happening:
>>>
>>> 1.       weewxd is using a different configuration file than you think 
>>> it is; or
>>>
>>> 2.       You didn't restart weewxd after changing the value.
>>>
>>> If neither of those are true, then we will need to see the log. Set 
>>> debug=1, restart weewx, post the log from startup through the first 
>>> reporting cycle.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> tk
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:41 PM Tim <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> The station is a RainWise MK-III with an IP-100.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Sent from my Hi-Tech Etch-A-Sketch
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2021, at 14:20, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> You didn't say what kind of weather station you are using, but for 
>>> stations that support hardware logging and if you specify hardware record 
>>> generation,  then weewx will use the interval specified in your hardware.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> If this is the case, then to change use the wee_device utility with the 
>>> --set-interval option. For example, to change to two minutes:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *wee_device --set-interval=2*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> -tk
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:12 AM tim lambert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I'm taking things in baby steps. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Earlier this week I successfully upgraded from weewx 4.2 to weewx 4.4 
>>> (which was surprisingly easy with how weewx addresses upgrades).   
>>> Everything is stable, so I'm moving onward to the next steps.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I've taken the route to implement WeeWX SteelSeries Weather Gauges 
>>> extension (not real-time yet) and WeeWX-WD v2.1.2 -- everything installed 
>>> and I can see the SteelGauge info on my remotely hosted website, as well as 
>>> see the clientraw.text and other key files for Saratoga Templates on the 
>>> remotely hosted server.   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> However, even though I have the archive_interval in weewx.conf set to 
>>> 120 (seconds) the FTP of the files generated by weewx is occurring every 
>>> 300 seconds (5 minutes) -- which I confirmed from reviewing the log 
>>> files.   How can I get the FTP to execute every 120 seconds?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> FYI, weewx.conf for Standard Archive is
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *[StdArchive]    archive_interval = 120    record_generation = 
>>> hardware    loop_hilo = True    data_binding = wx_binding*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Should I change the record_generation to software?   Noting the Rainwise 
>>> IP-100 is inserting records into the MySQL database tables every minute -- 
>>> which is what I want.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks in Advance for your guidance!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> -- Tim
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 8:35:31 PM UTC-8 tim lambert wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Gary for the insight and guidance.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
>>> Windows 10
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From: *gjr80
>>> *Sent: *Saturday, January 30, 2021 7:58 PM
>>> *To: *weewx-user
>>> *Subject: *[weewx-user] Re: WEEWX-WD and Weewx 4.2 to 4.4
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be using WeeWX-WD from bitbucket, it has not been touched for 
>>> some years now. WeeWX-WD on github 
>>> <https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-weewx-wd> is more up to date, the 
>>> current version is v2.1.2 from November 2020. It should have no problems 
>>> running on WeeWX v4.x under python 2 or python3. The SteelSeries 
>>> Weather Gauges <https://github.com/mcrossley/SteelSeries-Weather-Gauges> 
>>> have directly supported WeeWX of v2.5.0 (of the SteelSeries Weather Gauges) 
>>> or for about six years, and there is now a WeeWX SteelSeries Gauges 
>>> extension <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/steelseries> that 
>>> installs the necessary skin to support the SteelSeries Weather Gauges (this 
>>> is the preferred means of providing the SteelSeries Weather Gauges, 
>>> WeeWX-WD did support the SteelSeries Weather Gauges via the WD 
>>> customclientraw.txt but since the advent of direct WeeWX support and 
>>> the WeeWX extension the SteelSeries Weather Gauges support has been 
>>> deprecated in WeeWX-WD). You should find the WeeWX extension will work 
>>> under WeeWX v4.x and python2 or python3.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I would suggest that you upgrade to WeeWX v4.4.0 and get WeeWX running 
>>> to your satisfaction before installing either WeeWX-WD v2.1.2 or the WeeWX 
>>> SteelSeries Weather Gauges extension (in whatever order suits). Once you 
>>> have the SteelSeries Weather Gauges extension running OK you can, if you 
>>> want, look at installing the Realtime gauge-data extension 
>>> <https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-realtime_gauge-data> which will allow 
>>> the gauges to update on every loop packet rather than on each report cycle 
>>> (how often they will update will depend on how often your station emits 
>>> loop packets, for your Rainwise this should be up to every couple of 
>>> seconds).
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 13:15:24 UTC+10 tim lambert wrote:
>>>
>>> Gang,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Currently running weewx 4.2 (will be upgrading in the next few days to 
>>> 4.4) on a Raspberry Pi 4 (32-bit OS) with a Rainwise MK-III and IP-100 
>>> providing station data -- everything has been working properly for several 
>>> weeks and is populating a remote MySQL DB.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Once I upgrade weewx, I'd like to incorporate using Steel Gauges and 
>>> Saratoga Templates, hence my query:  Can I utilize the WEEWX-WD as outlined 
>>> BitBucket 
>>> Weewx-WD <https://bitbucket.org/ozgreg/weewx-wd/wiki/Users%20Guide>?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> The Steel Gauges and Saratoga Templates will be hosted on a remote, 
>>> public accessible server -- so I'll be sending the clientraw and testtag 
>>> files via FTP.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks in Advance!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> - Tim
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