>  What are 'all' the commands you executed ? 
Are you serious?  I've been working on this for hours.

> You should not need to 'change the location inside that script' if you 
are following the instructions correctly.   
I followed the pip install to the letter.  See the commands I listed post 
before last.

> are you installing v5 pip on a clean no-weewx system ?
Read the thread.  I took michael.k's suggestion.

>  are you upgrading a v4 setup to v5 pip ?
Read the thread.  I said "I installed weewx long ago (10 yrs?).  It is 
version   4.10.2"

>  are you upgrading a v4 dpkg to a v5 pip ?
The subject of the thread is "want to upgrade to 5.0, don't know original 
install method"

> People have done hundreds (thousands?) of pip installations by now.
And none had any problems.

On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 6:14:39 PM UTC-7 vince wrote:

> Mark you're going to have to be much less concise please.   What are 'all' 
> the commands you executed ?  What does the output look like end to end ?
>
> What exactly are you doing ?
>
>    - are you installing v5 pip on a clean no-weewx system ?
>    - or are you upgrading a v4 setup to v5 pip ?
>    - or are you upgrading a v4 dpkg to a v5 pip ?
>
> You should not need to 'change the location inside that script' if you are 
> following the instructions correctly.   You have to be doing something 
> different or missing a step or several.  People have done hundreds 
> (thousands?) of pip installations by now.
>
> Lets take a step back and please tell us where you're starting, what 
> you've done step-by-step, and what each step's output looked like.
>
>
> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 5:26:07 PM UTC-7 Mark Hahn wrote:
>
>> I did ...
>> # Create the virtual environment python3 -m venv ~/weewx-venv # Activate 
>> the WeeWX virtual environment source ~/weewx-venv/bin/activate # Install 
>> WeeWX into the virtual environment python3 -m pip install weewx
>>
>> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 5:23:27 PM UTC-7 Mark Hahn wrote:
>>
>>> >  Activate the venv first
>>> I followed the pip instructions carefully so I'm 99% sure I did "source 
>>> ~/weewx-venv/bin/activate".
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 5:04:16 PM UTC-7 vince wrote:
>>>
>>>> You used pip.  Activate the venv first. Always.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 5:01:38 PM UTC-7 Mark Hahn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As suggested I did a separate install using pip.  It was very quick.   
>>>>> "weectl device --clear-memory" fixed my davis problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I decided to run the new 5.0. I copied over the conf file.  I didn't 
>>>>> need to copy the db file.  Weewxd works great.
>>>>>
>>>>> But now I want to run it as a daemon.  The pip install instructions 
>>>>> said to use "sh ~/weewx-data/scripts/setup-daemon.sh".  I couldn't 
>>>>> run this because weewx-data is in the .env folder, not in root.  I went 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> the weewx-data in .env and ran /setup-daemon.sh.  I had to change the 
>>>>> location inside that script to also use weewx-data in .env.
>>>>>
>>>>> The daemon install gave no errors but when I run "systemctl start 
>>>>> weewx" I get this error ...
>>>>>
>>>>> /etc/systemd/system/weewx.service:12: Executable "WEEWX_PYTHON" not 
>>>>> found in path 
>>>>> "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"
>>>>>  weewx.service: Unit configuration has fatal error, unit will not be 
>>>>> started.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me how to fix this?  Meanwhile I'll run in not as a 
>>>>> daemon but obviously I've got to fix this.
>>>>> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd recommend you to leave your old installation untouched, install 
>>>>>> weewx5 the pip way in a venv together with your extensions, a copy of 
>>>>>> your 
>>>>>> database and config and see if it works out. When the new installation 
>>>>>> works as desired, just switch.
>>>>>> Mark Hahn schrieb am Montag, 24. Juni 2024 um 20:10:20 UTC+2:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I should say that I want to upgrade to get commands like "weectl 
>>>>>>> device --dump".  Are there equivalent commands in  4.10.2?    I need 
>>>>>>> those 
>>>>>>> commands to follow instructions in " Troubleshooting the Davis 
>>>>>>> Vantage station" page of wiki.  My other post here about my davis 
>>>>>>> troubles 
>>>>>>> is at https://groups.google.com/g/weewx-user/c/DMByZT6hyFM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 11:05:06 AM UTC-7 Mark Hahn wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I installed weewx long ago (10 yrs?).  It is version   4.10.2.  I 
>>>>>>>> don't have any idea how I installed it.  The is nothing related to 
>>>>>>>> weewx in 
>>>>>>>> my /root directory.  The is no weewx directory in /home.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how I should upgrade to 5.0?  Also, are there breaking 
>>>>>>>> changes from  4.10.2 to 5.0?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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