Hello everyone,

Thank you all for the replies!

I tried installing the module using both methods (apt & pip).  Both gave 
errors. I tried a bunch of other things and couldn't get it to work.  So, I 
started working on some other things on the Pi and noticed that the 
language was set for EN-GB-UTF8.  I change this to EN-US-UTF8 and tried 
install the module again (via apt) and was successful.  This make 
absolutely no sense, but that was the last thing that changed.  

I did try activating the virtual environment and could not make it work.  

I am new to the virtual environment of python - and very willing to 
learn/understand it.

I will further try to figure it out since I want to use the mqtt plug-in 
(https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/mqtt) and it requires a package that 
does not appear to be installable via apt (paho-mqtt).



On Monday, July 29, 2024 at 8:04:23 AM UTC-7 John Kline wrote:

> I looks like he is using an extension of mine (weewx-loopdata) that 
> requires sorted containers since weewx-loopdata v3.0.  The README states 
> that sortedcontainers must be installed and the weewx 5 install 
> instructions, step 1, states:
>
>    1. 
>    
>    
>    Activate the virtual environment (actual syntax varies by type of 
>    WeeWX install):/home/weewx/weewx-venv/bin/activate
>    
>
> I’m asssuming weewx 5.  If it is weewx 4, follow the WeeWX instructions 
> for weewx 4 installs.
>
> On Jul 29, 2024, at 9:51 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> This is ‘due’ to pep 668 and a ‘push’ for users to use virtual 
> environments. It is warning the person installing the python module, 
> sortedcontainers, that they  are installing into an ‘global’ 
> (externally-managed-environment) location. There are a few ways to solve 
> this.
> Create a virtual environment, activate it, and install the module. Since 
> WeeWX was a package install, this is not reasonable.
> As the message states, override the warning using the 
> ‘--break-system-packages’ option. It would look something like this, ‘pip3 
> install sortedcontainers --break-system-packages’.
> If it exists, install the OS package. It would be something like this, 
> ‘sudo apt install python3-sortedcontainers’
>
> Additional information:
> http://rptl.io/venv
> https://peps.python.org/pep-0668/
>
> https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/specifications/externally-managed-environments/#externally-managed-environments
>
> rich
> On Monday 29 July 2024 at 10:10:36 UTC-4 Tom Keffer wrote:
>
>> The user is doing a package install (the clue is paths such as 
>> '/usr/share/weewx/...'
>>
>> My thinking is that you are using an extension that needs 
>> 'sortedcontainers'.
>>
>> Please post your configuration file, /etc/weewx/weewx.conf. Make sure you 
>> look it over and remove any passwords or other sensitive information before 
>> posting. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:41 PM Marty b <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Should point out that I did try installing the missing module, but got 
>>> the following error:
>>>
>>>  $ pip3 install sortedcontainers
>>> error: externally-managed-environment
>>>
>>> × This environment is externally managed
>>> ╰─> To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
>>>     python3-xyz, where xyz is the package you are trying to
>>>     install.
>>>
>>>     If you wish to install a non-Debian-packaged Python package,
>>>     create a virtual environment using python3 -m venv path/to/venv.
>>>     Then use path/to/venv/bin/python and path/to/venv/bin/pip. Make
>>>     sure you have python3-full installed.
>>>
>>>     For more information visit http://rptl.io/venv
>>>
>>> note: If you believe this is a mistake, please contact your Python 
>>> installation or OS distribution provider. You can override this, at the 
>>> risk of breaking your Python installation or OS, by passing 
>>> --break-system-packages.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 11:14:11 PM UTC-7 Marty b wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Just built a new SD card with Raspbian bookworm 64 bit and WeeWx.  When 
>>>> starting weewx I get an error "No module named 'sortedcontainers'.  Please 
>>>> let me know how to resolve this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.engine: StdConvert 
>>>> target unit is 0x1
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.wxservices: 
>>>> StdWXCalculate will use data binding wx_binding
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.engine: Archive will 
>>>> use data binding wx_binding
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.engine: Record 
>>>> generation will be attempted in 'hardware'
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.engine: Using 
>>>> archive interval of 300 seconds (specified by hardware)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.restx: 
>>>> StationRegistry: Registration not requested.
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.restx: Wunderground: 
>>>> Posting not enabled.
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.restx: PWSweather: 
>>>> Posting not enabled.
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.restx: CWOP: Posting 
>>>> not enabled.
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.restx: WOW: Posting 
>>>> not enabled.
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.restx: AWEKAS: 
>>>> Posting not enabled.
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: INFO weewx.engine: 'pyephem' 
>>>> detected, extended almanac data is available
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__: Caught 
>>>> unrecoverable exception:
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****  No 
>>>> module named 'sortedcontainers'
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     **** 
>>>>  Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "/usr/share/weewx/weewxd.py", line 121, in main
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>  engine = weewx.engine.StdEngine(config_dict)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/engine.py", line 89, in __init__
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>  self.loadServices(config_dict)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/engine.py", line 157, in loadServices
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>  obj = weeutil.weeutil.get_object(svc)(self, config_dict)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "/usr/share/weewx/weeutil/weeutil.py", line 1404, in get_object
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>  module = importlib.import_module(module_name)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "/usr/lib/python3.11/importlib/__init__.py", line 126, in 
>>>> import_module
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>  return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1206, in _gcd_import
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1178, in _find_and_load
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1149, in 
>>>> _find_and_load_unlocked
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 690, in _load_unlocked
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: Traceback (most recent call 
>>>> last):
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:   File 
>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewxd.py", line 226, in <module>
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 940, in exec_module
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:     main()
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:   File 
>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewxd.py", line 121, in main
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 241, in 
>>>> _call_with_frames_removed
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:     engine = 
>>>> weewx.engine.StdEngine(config_dict)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:             
>>>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:   File 
>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/engine.py", line 89, in __init__
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****   
>>>>  File "/etc/weewx/bin/user/loopdata.py", line 30, in <module>
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:     
>>>> self.loadServices(config_dict)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:   File 
>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/engine.py", line 157, in loadServices
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:     obj = 
>>>> weeutil.weeutil.get_object(svc)(self, config_dict)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****     
>>>>  from sortedcontainers import SortedDict
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:           
>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:   File 
>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weeutil/weeutil.py", line 1404, in get_object
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     **** 
>>>>  ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'sortedcontainers'
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]: CRITICAL __main__:     **** 
>>>>  Exiting.
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:     module = 
>>>> importlib.import_module(module_name)
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:             
>>>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:   File 
>>>> "/usr/lib/python3.11/importlib/__init__.py", line 126, in import_module
>>>> Jul 28 23:12:10 WeeWx2024 weewxd[2632]:     return 
>>>> _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level)
>>>>
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