I assume they mean some kind of setting on their website for each station, but I just looked then and didn't find anything...
On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 22:01, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote: > @John Smith <[email protected]> glad that worked for you. > > Everyone: all of this led me to take a look at what the UK WOW wants > <https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/support/dataformats#pressure>. It's even > more confusing. Rather than have a well-defined API, they let the user > choose what "baromin" means. > > Pressure & MSLP: > > Some weather stations record Mean Sea Level Pressure, and some record > Station Pressure (also referred to as Air Pressure). The Site Definition in > WOW will be used to determine which pressure measurement to use. If your > site specifies a unit for Air Pressure, and MSLP is marked as 'Not > Captured', then baromin will be treated as an Air Pressure reading. > Otherwise it will be treated as an MSLP reading. To edit your site > definition and ensure the correct pressure is selected, visit the edit > pages of your site and the options for pressure will be near the bottom. > Ensure one is set to 'hectopascals (hPa)' and the other is set to 'not > captured'. WOW will then automatically work out the other measurement and > store it for you. > > I don't know what they mean by "If your site specifies a unit for Air > Pressure." In any case, we send "barometer", which is pressure corrected > for altitude and temperature. Reading this very confusing passage, I think > we should send "altimeter" and remind users to mark MSLP as "Captured." > > Any other opinions? > > -tk > > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 4:14 AM Jimi Lawson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> @Ton vanN & @steepleian >> I came to the same conclusion after an extensive internet search (I only >> found 2 references to this, 1 on this thread and 1 on WOW-BE) and I also >> contacted the UK MET Office and asked the following questions >> >> 1. I currently upload my weather station data to my site (Well Road >> Weather) on the Met Office WOW Will the DataPoint retirement affect this ? >> If do how do I continue to submit Data ? >> 2. I also currently download a 7 day forecast from the MET office >> will this continue or will I have to access it a different way. >> 3. I used to be able to upload weather cam images to WOW by FTP but >> this no longer seems to work, is it discontinued? if so will there be an >> alternative method available ? >> >> >> The answers were >> >> >> 1. No, the removal of DataPoint will not affect uploading data to WOW. >> 2. A service called Weather DataHub will be taking over from >> DataPoint, through there you can download forecasts. Please see further >> information here: https://datahub.metoffice.gov.uk/The WOW FTP server >> has been retired. >> 3. If anyone wishes to upload webcam images they'll have to use their >> own FTP server. Steps for this can be found here: >> https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/support/webcams >> >> >> Straight from the horses mouth is good enough for me, I won't be changing >> my upload to UKMO >> Jimi >> >> On Thursday, 25 September 2025 at 10:20:11 UTC+1 steepleian wrote: >> >>> @Ton, >>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head with your conclusion. >>> >>> https://claydonsweather.org.uk >>> >>> On 25 Sep 2025, at 10:09, steepleian <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The wow.metoffice.gov.uk is still alive and kicking. There was a >>> change of process which meant users had to migrate their accounts by a >>> certain date or lose access. No suggestion it was closing. >>> >>> >>> https://claydonsweather.org.uk >>> >>> On 25 Sep 2025, at 09:13, Ton vanN <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Have tried to trace back, but absolutely no mentioning at the >>> WOW-partner-websites of MetOfficeUK (= KNMI and MetEireann) about an >>> upcoming shutdown for WOW-UPLOAD, causing serious doubt about the report at >>> GitHub. >>> Or is it misinterpretation related to a change in the datahub providing >>> DOWNLOAD of meteodata from MetOfficeUK? >>> >>> Can somebody point/recall to a weblink to the said shutdown-message from >>> MetOfficeUK, as confirmation of the source-info? >>> Lacking that confirmation the creation of the new upload to wow.meteo.be >>> looks like a solo-action from KMI/RMI for creation of a parallel >>> WOW-channel. >>> >>> >>> Op donderdag 25 september 2025 om 07:15:06 UTC+2 schreef John Smith: >>> >>>> I now only have 'altimeter': 'baromin=%.3f', I removed the pressure line >>>> >>>> On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 14:56, John Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> @Tom >>>>> Yes that seems to work... >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 06:29, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I see one possible point of confusion. For baromin, they say >>>>>> >>>>>> baromin >>>>>> number >>>>>> >>>>>> Relative Pressure i.e. pressure adjusted to sea level (Inch of >>>>>> Mercury) >>>>>> >>>>>> This seems like they expect an adjustment *only* for altitude, not >>>>>> temperature. If that's the case, then the correct WeeWX observation type >>>>>> would be "altimeter", not "barometer". >>>>>> >>>>>> @John Smith : could you try making the switch and see if that makes >>>>>> a difference in your results? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 3:15 AM Glenn McKechnie <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Spent some time trying to understand this and what might have >>>>>>> changed, We were using absbaromin to get the corrected readings when it >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> first implemented, and as John said this was because baromin gave >>>>>>> readings >>>>>>> that were too high. That now seems to have flipped, we're back to >>>>>>> ridiculous highs again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We started back around the 16th, and all the pressure data prior to >>>>>>> the 19th @ 19:45 is missing for Aus. So ? ; one of life's little >>>>>>> mysteries >>>>>>> I guess. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rather than questioning my sanity any further, I've checked out the >>>>>>> development driver for restx.py and am using it in place of the previous >>>>>>> one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now barometer = baromin works, as does pressure = absbaromin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are back to sane values. The development driver works. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Comparing the output to the official BOM values from the local >>>>>>> airport, I'm within range. >>>>>>> They are at 435 metres, I'm at 455 metres - close enough >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Various WeeWx addons at >>>>>>> https://github.com/glennmckechnie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Sept 2025 at 19:24, Graham Eddy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ditto. just waiting for it to settle, then deploy >>>>>>>> *⊣GE⊢* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2025, at 6:10 pm, 'steepleian' via weewx-user < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am a current WOW user and intend to continue with the new service. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/9C991DEF-EA73-4C4F-9C4B-D8EF19DAA641%40geddy.au >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/9C991DEF-EA73-4C4F-9C4B-D8EF19DAA641%40geddy.au?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/CAAraAzi1K%3Du6kGVhTzCymJjJe21N1MTTO7ahx9m_%2BU-TncT4YQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/CAAraAzi1K%3Du6kGVhTzCymJjJe21N1MTTO7ahx9m_%2BU-TncT4YQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "weewx-user" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/e405aa8e-6490-4181-b7db-580b39a552ban%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/e405aa8e-6490-4181-b7db-580b39a552ban%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "weewx-user" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/86CB1AA6-2C20-485F-8E7B-1F68CE904051%40btinternet.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/86CB1AA6-2C20-485F-8E7B-1F68CE904051%40btinternet.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "weewx-user" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/4cf23976-ad1e-4de2-a0ba-caf6b80c1b40n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/4cf23976-ad1e-4de2-a0ba-caf6b80c1b40n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. 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