NM just found it... Pressure At Station Not Captured Hecto Pascal Millibar Mean Sea-Level Pressure Not Captured Hecto Pascal Millibar
Doesn't look obvious though, which is why I overlooked it... On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 22:11, John Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > I assume they mean some kind of setting on their website for each station, > but I just looked then and didn't find anything... > > On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 22:01, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> @John Smith <[email protected]> glad that worked for you. >> >> Everyone: all of this led me to take a look at what the UK WOW wants >> <https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/support/dataformats#pressure>. It's even >> more confusing. Rather than have a well-defined API, they let the user >> choose what "baromin" means. >> >> Pressure & MSLP: >> >> Some weather stations record Mean Sea Level Pressure, and some record >> Station Pressure (also referred to as Air Pressure). The Site Definition in >> WOW will be used to determine which pressure measurement to use. If your >> site specifies a unit for Air Pressure, and MSLP is marked as 'Not >> Captured', then baromin will be treated as an Air Pressure reading. >> Otherwise it will be treated as an MSLP reading. To edit your site >> definition and ensure the correct pressure is selected, visit the edit >> pages of your site and the options for pressure will be near the bottom. >> Ensure one is set to 'hectopascals (hPa)' and the other is set to 'not >> captured'. WOW will then automatically work out the other measurement and >> store it for you. >> >> I don't know what they mean by "If your site specifies a unit for Air >> Pressure." In any case, we send "barometer", which is pressure corrected >> for altitude and temperature. Reading this very confusing passage, I think >> we should send "altimeter" and remind users to mark MSLP as "Captured." >> >> Any other opinions? >> >> -tk >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 4:14 AM Jimi Lawson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> @Ton vanN & @steepleian >>> I came to the same conclusion after an extensive internet search (I only >>> found 2 references to this, 1 on this thread and 1 on WOW-BE) and I also >>> contacted the UK MET Office and asked the following questions >>> >>> 1. I currently upload my weather station data to my site (Well Road >>> Weather) on the Met Office WOW Will the DataPoint retirement affect this >>> ? >>> If do how do I continue to submit Data ? >>> 2. I also currently download a 7 day forecast from the MET office >>> will this continue or will I have to access it a different way. >>> 3. I used to be able to upload weather cam images to WOW by FTP but >>> this no longer seems to work, is it discontinued? if so will there be an >>> alternative method available ? >>> >>> >>> The answers were >>> >>> >>> 1. No, the removal of DataPoint will not affect uploading data to >>> WOW. >>> 2. A service called Weather DataHub will be taking over from >>> DataPoint, through there you can download forecasts. Please see further >>> information here: https://datahub.metoffice.gov.uk/The WOW FTP >>> server has been retired. >>> 3. If anyone wishes to upload webcam images they'll have to use >>> their own FTP server. Steps for this can be found here: >>> https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/support/webcams >>> >>> >>> Straight from the horses mouth is good enough for me, I won't be >>> changing my upload to UKMO >>> Jimi >>> >>> On Thursday, 25 September 2025 at 10:20:11 UTC+1 steepleian wrote: >>> >>>> @Ton, >>>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head with your conclusion. >>>> >>>> https://claydonsweather.org.uk >>>> >>>> On 25 Sep 2025, at 10:09, steepleian <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> The wow.metoffice.gov.uk is still alive and kicking. There was a >>>> change of process which meant users had to migrate their accounts by a >>>> certain date or lose access. No suggestion it was closing. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://claydonsweather.org.uk >>>> >>>> On 25 Sep 2025, at 09:13, Ton vanN <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Have tried to trace back, but absolutely no mentioning at the >>>> WOW-partner-websites of MetOfficeUK (= KNMI and MetEireann) about an >>>> upcoming shutdown for WOW-UPLOAD, causing serious doubt about the report at >>>> GitHub. >>>> Or is it misinterpretation related to a change in the datahub providing >>>> DOWNLOAD of meteodata from MetOfficeUK? >>>> >>>> Can somebody point/recall to a weblink to the said shutdown-message >>>> from MetOfficeUK, as confirmation of the source-info? >>>> Lacking that confirmation the creation of the new upload to >>>> wow.meteo.be looks like a solo-action from KMI/RMI for creation of a >>>> parallel WOW-channel. >>>> >>>> >>>> Op donderdag 25 september 2025 om 07:15:06 UTC+2 schreef John Smith: >>>> >>>>> I now only have 'altimeter': 'baromin=%.3f', I removed the pressure >>>>> line >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 14:56, John Smith <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @Tom >>>>>> Yes that seems to work... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 06:29, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I see one possible point of confusion. For baromin, they say >>>>>>> >>>>>>> baromin >>>>>>> number >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Relative Pressure i.e. pressure adjusted to sea level (Inch of >>>>>>> Mercury) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This seems like they expect an adjustment *only* for altitude, not >>>>>>> temperature. If that's the case, then the correct WeeWX observation type >>>>>>> would be "altimeter", not "barometer". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @John Smith : could you try making the switch and see if that makes >>>>>>> a difference in your results? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 3:15 AM Glenn McKechnie < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Spent some time trying to understand this and what might have >>>>>>>> changed, We were using absbaromin to get the corrected readings when >>>>>>>> it was >>>>>>>> first implemented, and as John said this was because baromin gave >>>>>>>> readings >>>>>>>> that were too high. That now seems to have flipped, we're back to >>>>>>>> ridiculous highs again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We started back around the 16th, and all the pressure data prior to >>>>>>>> the 19th @ 19:45 is missing for Aus. So ? ; one of life's little >>>>>>>> mysteries >>>>>>>> I guess. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rather than questioning my sanity any further, I've checked out the >>>>>>>> development driver for restx.py and am using it in place of the >>>>>>>> previous >>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now barometer = baromin works, as does pressure = absbaromin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are back to sane values. The development driver works. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Comparing the output to the official BOM values from the local >>>>>>>> airport, I'm within range. >>>>>>>> They are at 435 metres, I'm at 455 metres - close enough >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Various WeeWx addons at >>>>>>>> https://github.com/glennmckechnie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Sept 2025 at 19:24, Graham Eddy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ditto. just waiting for it to settle, then deploy >>>>>>>>> *⊣GE⊢* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2025, at 6:10 pm, 'steepleian' via weewx-user < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am a current WOW user and intend to continue with the new >>>>>>>>> service. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/9C991DEF-EA73-4C4F-9C4B-D8EF19DAA641%40geddy.au >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/9C991DEF-EA73-4C4F-9C4B-D8EF19DAA641%40geddy.au?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/CAAraAzi1K%3Du6kGVhTzCymJjJe21N1MTTO7ahx9m_%2BU-TncT4YQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/CAAraAzi1K%3Du6kGVhTzCymJjJe21N1MTTO7ahx9m_%2BU-TncT4YQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/e405aa8e-6490-4181-b7db-580b39a552ban%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/e405aa8e-6490-4181-b7db-580b39a552ban%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "weewx-user" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/86CB1AA6-2C20-485F-8E7B-1F68CE904051%40btinternet.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/86CB1AA6-2C20-485F-8E7B-1F68CE904051%40btinternet.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "weewx-user" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/4cf23976-ad1e-4de2-a0ba-caf6b80c1b40n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/4cf23976-ad1e-4de2-a0ba-caf6b80c1b40n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. 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