Marius we cannot read minds. ‘What’ is back to 3am ? Your computer clock ? 
The timestamp on a webpage ?

On Sunday, March 8, 2026 at 12:16:08 PM UTC-7 Marius Schamschula wrote:

> After running (and restarting) weewx with the new database file I tried 
> replacing it with the old file: Back to 3:00 AM!
>
> Moved back the new database file: it works again!
>
> On Sunday, March 8, 2026 at 1:58:04 PM UTC-5 Marius Schamschula wrote:
>
>> Indeed, the venv mess is not of weewx's making.
>>
>> I'm somewhat surprised at the permissions issue for the USB socket, as my 
>> regular user is a member of wheel.
>>
>> I'll try setting up as regular user again.
>> On Sunday, March 8, 2026 at 1:36:57 PM UTC-5 Vince Skahan wrote:
>>
>>> You generally can't avoid venvs on a modern python on a current os. 
>>>  Nobody here did that.  The python project forced that on everybody.
>>>
>>> Installing as root is generally a bad idea.  One big improvement in 
>>> weewx v5 is that it no longer needs to run as root nor even 'require' root 
>>> other than to install system-level things.  But to answer:
>>>
>>>    - no module named 'weewxd' is due to you not activating your python 
>>>    venv.    Always run 'source /some/path/here/bin/activate' to activate 
>>> your 
>>>    venv before installing any modules with pip3 or running weewxd or 
>>> weectl. 
>>>
>>>
>>>    - for a pip installation, weewxd will run as the user you used when 
>>>    you ran the pip command to install weewx itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>    - if you installed weewx as a non-privileged user, you will usually 
>>>    need to add that user to whatever group has permissions to access the 
>>>    serial or usb devices. Typically adding them to group dialout helps. 
>>>     Alternately you can set up udev rules to do the right thing. There are 
>>>    wiki and faq pages with a variety of ways to do this and which groups 
>>> can 
>>>    typically do what (varies os by os).
>>>
>>>
>>>    - you shouldn't need to import data from an old db.  The old db 
>>>    should work fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>    - I have no idea what 'the time is also stuck at 3:00 AM' means.
>>>
>>>
>>>    - I have no idea what '(the .sdb) failed to update with 5.3.1' 
>>>    means.  Your system logs should show what happened if anything.  My wild 
>>>    guess is your weewx.conf file is pointing someplace else.  Set debug=1 
>>> in 
>>>    weewx.conf and restart it and check your logs.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2026 at 10:54:14 AM UTC-7 Marius Schamschula wrote:
>>>
>>>> Something broke my old installation of weewx 4.10.1. It stopped at 3:00 
>>>> AM with the change to CDT around here.
>>>>
>>>> As someone who spends a lot of time avoiding pip and venvs as a port 
>>>> maintainer on MacPorts I have held back updating to 5.x. I don't like the 
>>>> Python maintenance nightmare of having multiple (incompatible) versions of 
>>>> packages installed under various paths.
>>>>
>>>> Despite the above, I tried installing 5.3.1 using pip and venv as a 
>>>> regular user.
>>>>
>>>> The result: bad idea!
>>>>
>>>> Under FreeBSD the unprivileged user can't open the device (in this case 
>>>> /dev/ttyU0)
>>>>
>>>> Root can open the device, but the paths for root are broken.
>>>>
>>>> Even after adding the path to /home/marius/.local/bin I get 
>>>>
>>>> # weewxd
>>>>
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>
>>>>   File "/home/marius/.local/bin/weewxd", line 5, in <module>
>>>>
>>>>     from weewxd import main
>>>>
>>>> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'weewxd'
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea how to tell python 3.11 where that module lives. In the 
>>>> olden days of 4.10.1, that wouldn't have been an issue.
>>>>
>>>> So I uninstalled the enduser venv, and installed it as root.
>>>>
>>>> I installed weewx-venv outside of the /root space, but sure enough 
>>>> weewx-data appeared under /root. This is a security issue. So I moved it 
>>>> under the same directory as weewx-venv and used --config to start weewxd. 
>>>> So far so good.
>>>>
>>>> I see the live LOOP data come in on the console, the NOAA and html 
>>>> pages are created. 
>>>>
>>>> However, I'm back at square one: the time is also stuck at 3:00 AM CDT.
>>>>
>>>> Amy ideas?
>>>>
>>>

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