Sure. The other os have python libs they install at the system level too. Run 'pip3 list --verbose' to see what's where.
I'm personally ok with things installing as root. I just like not 'running' as root whenever it can be avoided. FWIW - I have run into the problems venv solve quite a lot. Things needing certain versions of a library (or minimum versions thereof) and the os freezing to something lesser. Any RHEL-like system or LTS debian is a good example. They go for many year stability and freeze to old versions. The venv thing is a good way to not be limited by the os vendor's choices. On Sunday, March 8, 2026 at 12:45:33 PM UTC-7 Greg Troxel wrote: > Vince Skahan <[email protected]> writes: > > > You generally can't avoid venvs on a modern python on a current os. > Nobody > > here did that. The python project forced that on everybody. > > That's not strictly true. pkgsrc has packages for a vast number of > py-foo all installed in the system site-packages, and it works fine. I > am actually running weewx that way, with the weewx code in > /usr/pkg/lib/python3.13/site-packages/weewx and so on. > > In my case, the weewx progarm files are owned by root and live in the > system. I am running it in a data directory (with config file and > database) that is owned by a non-root user. Stepping back from weewx > and python, this is totally normal, to use installed programs with your > own data. > > <rant> > > I find that venvs are required because python culture says it is ok to > have requirements as foo==x.y.z, rather than foo>=x.y. Thus, there is > no way to have everything needed installed, and python packages with > unreasonably specific dependencies (Home Assistant) have to be in a venv > for isolation. > > The root cause of pinned deps, besides people thinking it is ok, is API > instability within modules. > > </rant> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/weewx-user/ac08951d-bb5b-407e-8b72-874ff650aa61n%40googlegroups.com.
