There is no reason to migrate to the new schema. It is not an "upgrade." It
just offers more types. In your case, because you need only a single new
type (appTemp) it would be much more efficient to just add it using the
tool "weectl database add-column
<https://www.weewx.com/docs/5.4/utilities/weectl-database/#add-a-new-observation-type-to-the-database>
":

*weectl database add-column appTemp*


However, while that will add a new column, it will not populate it with
anything. To do that, use weectl database calc-missing
<https://www.weewx.com/docs/5.4/utilities/weectl-database/#calculate-missing-derived-variables>
:

*weectl database calc-missing*


I would advise doing a backup first.

-tk

On Sun, Jun 28, 2026 at 11:25 AM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hmmm.  My MySQL database is using the old schema, and it seems there's a
> good likelihood that's at least contributing to the performance problems
> I'm seeing.  And while the link Tom gave describes adding a specific column
> to the table,
> https://weewx.com/docs/5.4/custom/database/#reconfigure-using-new-schema
> provides instructions that would seem to address migrating to the new
> schema completely.  So I tried them.  Stopped weewx, made a backup of the
> mysql database using mysqldump, and edited weewx.conf to revert to using
> the mysql database, and to use the wview_extended schema.  Then ran weectl
> database reconfigure--which died after just under a minute:
> dan@wxbox ➜  ~ time sudo -u weewx weectl database reconfigure
> Using configuration file /etc/weewx/weewx.conf
> Copying database 'weewx' to 'weewx_new'
> The new database will use the same unit system as the old ('US').
> Are you sure you wish to proceed (y/n)? y
> [2]    7144 killed     sudo -u weewx weectl database reconfigure
> sudo -u weewx weectl database reconfigure  0.01s user 0.01s system 0% cpu
> 53.676 total
>
> The new database is created, the new archive table is created in it, and
> it appears to have all the necessary fields (describe archive returns 115
> rows), but it's empty.  The system log doesn't report any errors:
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.783311-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> Initializing weectl version 5.4.0
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.787432-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> Command line: /usr/share/weewx/weectl.py database reconfigure
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.788797-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib: Using
> Python: 3.13.5 (main, May  5 2026, 21:05:52) [GCC 14.2.0]
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.788976-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> Located at:   /usr/bin/python3
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.789025-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> Platform:     Linux-6.12.94+deb13-amd64-x86_64-with-glibc2.41
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.789078-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> Locale:       'en_US.UTF-8'
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.789130-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib: Entry
> path:   /usr/share/weewx/weectl.py
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.789303-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> WEEWX_ROOT:   /etc/weewx
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.789712-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> Config file:  /etc/weewx/weewx.conf
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.789764-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib: User
> module:  /etc/weewx/bin/user
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.789957-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> Debug:        1
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.790009-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib: User:
>         weewx
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.790050-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> Group:        weewx
> 2026-06-28T14:16:26.790186-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weectllib:
> Groups:       dialout weewx
> 2026-06-28T14:16:37.260384-04:00 wxbox weectl[7147]: INFO weewx.manager:
> Created and initialized table 'archive' in database 'weewx_new'
>
> Am I just misunderstanding what this tool does?  If so, is there a way to
> migrate an existing database to a new schema?
>
> On Saturday, June 27, 2026 at 9:54:37 PM UTC-4 John Smith wrote:
>
>> I've never heard of a V5 problem that bad, but I suppose it's possible.
>>
>>
>> Considering they have a smaller number of columns, it could be a case of
>> taking a long time to calculate the  missing ones.
>>
>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 at 06:53, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> This is smelling like a V5 performance issue. See the Wiki article 
>>> *Troubleshooting
>>> V5.x performance
>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/v5-performance-troubleshooting>. *What
>>> gives me pause is that you said that sometimes the reports don't finish
>>> even after several days of running. I've never heard of a V5 problem that
>>> bad, but I suppose it's possible.
>>>
>>> Try putting appTemp in the database and see what happens.
>>>
>>> -tk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2026 at 1:41 PM [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Struggles to create the charts ? Lets see some logs showing that. You
>>>> did not post any debug=1 logs.
>>>>
>>>> I did, in fact, 400+ lines' worth.  Nothing that I saw there about
>>>> image generation, but it's certainly possible I overlooked it.  I inferred
>>>> the "struggle" from the fact that, at that time, index.html had updated but
>>>> none of the charts had.  Over time (30+ minutes), the charts gradually
>>>> updated.
>>>>
>>>> > The only thing I can think of along those lines is weewx being slow
>>>> calculating things you refer to in your skin that are not elements the db
>>>> but that shouldn’t happen with a clean v5 installation tunning unaltered
>>>> Seasons
>>>>
>>>> If it's still using the existing database, which it was, that seems
>>>> plausible.  Rich also mentioned something similar.
>>>>
>>>> > I’m thinking you have the old wview not wview-extended db perhaps.
>>>> You should have around 113 elements in the archive table not the small old
>>>> schema with 52 or so.
>>>>
>>>> I think you're right.  `describe archive` lists 53 rows.  Looks like
>>>> some reading at
>>>> https://weewx.com/docs/5.1/custom/database/#modify-the-schema-of-an-existing-database
>>>> is in order.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, June 27, 2026 at 4:31:07 PM UTC-4 Vince Skahan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Struggles to create the charts ? Lets see some logs showing that. You
>>>>> did not post any debug=1 logs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing I can think of along those lines is weewx being slow
>>>>> calculating things you refer to in your skin that are not elements the db
>>>>> but that shouldn’t happen with a clean v5 installation tunning unaltered
>>>>> Seasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, June 27, 2026 at 12:42:32 PM UTC-7 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2026 at 12:03 PM [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > MySQL server. You had a "Cannot connect" error on startup, so
>>>>>>> there is something flaky about the connection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems weewx starts up earlier than mysql, and thus fails to
>>>>>>> connect.  It also seems to shut down earlier (on system shutdown or 
>>>>>>> reboot)
>>>>>>> than mysql, leading to errors then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enabling the general query log and following it doesn't show
>>>>>>> anything obvious.  Nothing gets logged to the slow query log.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should show the types of queries running and how long they take.
>>>>>> Are you saying they were all quick?  The time *must* be going
>>>>>> somewhere!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trying to rule out sources of a slowdown, I moved the VM storage to a
>>>>>>> local disk (it had been over the network), and again rebooted.  And it 
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> quickly generates the index.html page for the Seasons report, but it 
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> seems to be struggling to create the --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good idea. Try using sqlite and see if that's faster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -tk
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