What was happening was that it was creating the entities in HA, but it 
never populated them with data.  

I have always used individual topics just to simplify things (moreso in my 
mind I guess)

I will fool around with this more, but I guess I'm not that motivated 
because it's working now as is.  I'll apoligize in advance if this takes a 
while to debug.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2026 at 8:38:20 p.m. UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:

> expire_after is  HA configuration option. Currently by default 
> MQTTPublish/MQTTHomeAssistantConfig does not set it.
> More information, 
> https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sensor.mqtt/#expire_after
>
> On Wednesday, 15 July 2026 at 08:20:12 UTC-4 Rob M wrote:
>
>> I was using matthewall's MQTT with my old weewx instance and I think 
>> you're right I didn't have these problems, it just worked.  It just begs 
>> the question, why would the retain flag matter at all like you say.  The 
>> one thing you mentioned that I have never set with either MQTT publish 
>> extensions is the expire_after.  Could it be without retain that the data 
>> is expiring immediately for some reason?
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2026 at 6:19 PM Greg Troxel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>> > I realized that without the retain, the HA plugin had nothing to work 
>>> with 
>>> > because the timing on my weather data is so different depending on 
>>> what it 
>>> > is, my wind data is every 5 seconds and my archive period is 3 minutes 
>>> so 
>>> > all my other raw data from my weather station posts every 3 minutes as 
>>> > well.
>>>
>>> This doesn't make sense to me.  Without retain, when weewx is connected
>>> to the broker, and HA is connected (the normal case, should be true
>>> almost always), then MQTT posts from weewx arrive at HA.  If you are
>>> sending data every three minutes (because your archive interval is 3
>>> minutes and you are sending archive data), then within 3 minutes of
>>> starting HA the data should populate, and you should probably pick 180s
>>> or 390s for expire_after.  If this doesn't work without retain, then
>>> something is very broken and we should figure it out, not tell people to
>>> set something which is semantically troubled.
>>>
>>> I have retain=False using [email protected]:matthewwall/weewx-mqtt.git and
>>> my weather data in HA is stable, but goes to unavailable when my weewx
>>> computer stops transmitting.
>>>
>>> > Because everything is so out of sync I have to use retain or it will 
>>> > never get anything to work with.
>>>
>>> This doesn't make sense to me either.   There is no need for
>>> synchronization of various entities, as long as they are all valid.
>>>
>>> > Also as far as the LWT, I just AI'd it and it suggested that HA enjoys
>>> > having that set.
>>>
>>> That is incorrect; HA is not a person and does not enjoy anything!  The
>>> point of the LWT, as I said earlier, is to post offline to the online
>>> topic on client disconnect, so that the posting of online at connection
>>> is withdrawn and the availability topic has the right semantics.  You
>>> should look at the json config that MQTTPublish uses, or your own
>>> config, to see if that is correct -- and see the page I referenced
>>> previously.
>>>
>>> > I did set up MQTTPublish and the HA plugin with json because I had no
>>> > reason to break out the topic individually.
>>>
>>> What "HA plugin"?  HA has "integrations", and something (formerly called
>>> "add-ons") called "apps".  The MQTT integration is built in.
>>>
>>> > My raw data from my weather station on the other had posts
>>> > individually.
>>>
>>> What do you mean "raw", and how is that happening -- if you aren't using
>>> MQTTPublish?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sending json is nice because there's one MQTT message posted.  If you
>>> are sending archive data every 3 minutes (I do, but every 5), then
>>> there's one message, with everything, logically consistent in time.
>>>
>>> With loop, whether things are in json or not, they aren't quite
>>> consistent because data arrives to weewx at different times.  As long as
>>> the delays are small (sub 30s?), it's not a big deal.
>>>
>>> If you have wind every 5s, then putting everything in json might lead to
>>> a full json every 5s, retransmitting previous values for other things,
>>> and ingesting them into HA again.    It would be better in my view to
>>> split out wind to not be in json (or to be in a separate higher-rate
>>> json) to avoid transmitting data that isn't really data.
>>>
>>>
>>> Overall it sounds like you have found a configuration by guessing at
>>> settings but that it isn't really grounded in a plan of how things
>>> should be.  I encourage you to examine what is being sent on MQTT and to
>>> read the HA entity configuration, in yaml if you did it yourself, or to
>>> read the autoconfig json if you're doing it that way.
>>>
>>

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