Vince, it's weird. Looked back through terminal to see but all i did 
recently was with minicom and screen and trying to remove a not present 
modemmanager. Weewx was off for quite while until I did Tom's power and 
battery remover and reboot with long done press. After that a successful 
minicom TEST and a for away. Still can't believe it and very irritated that 
it just stopped throwing a hissy fit.

On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 10:09:58 PM UTC+2 Vince Skahan wrote:

> It's probably too late to ask but before you change or touch anything 
> more, what exactly did you do or change ?
>
> FWIW for the next time this comes up, I did a clean 26.1 LTS server 
> install on a pi4 and the default 'did' install modemmanager so I needed to 
> remove that, run apt autoremove, and reboot just in case.  I did not attach 
> it to my VP2 but I did use a spare serial2usb adapter to do a little 
> testing.  The dmesg logs showed a lot of /sys/devices errors from apparmor 
> when I ran lsusb as the default unprivileged user who was only in the 
> following unix groups.  I didn't make any changes to add the default user 
> into the right groups to attach to the devices.  Presumably the weewx user 
> would need to do that to access the hardware too.
>
> pi@pi4jr:~$ groups
> pi adm cdrom sudo dip lxd
>
>
> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 12:51:55 PM UTC-7 bushtech wrote:
>
>> Oct 03 21:49:07 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: INFO weewx.engine: Using 
>> binding 'wx_binding' to database 'weewx.sdb'
>> Oct 03 21:49:07 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: INFO weewx.manager: Starting 
>> backfill of daily summaries
>> Oct 03 21:49:07 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: INFO weewx.manager: Daily 
>> summaries up to date
>> Oct 03 21:49:07 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: DEBUG weewx.drivers.vantage: 
>> Getting archive packets since 2026-10-01 21:30:00 SAST (1790883000)
>> Oct 03 21:49:09 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: DEBUG weewx.drivers.vantage: 
>> Successfully woke up Vantage console
>> Oct 03 21:49:09 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: DEBUG weewx.drivers.vantage: 
>> Retrieving 0 page(s); starting index= 0
>> Oct 03 21:49:09 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: INFO weewx.engine: Starting 
>> main packet loop.
>> Oct 03 21:49:09 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: DEBUG weewx.drivers.vantage: 
>> Successfully woke up Vantage console
>> Oct 03 21:49:09 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: DEBUG weewx.drivers.vantage: 
>> Requesting 200 LOOP packets.
>> Oct 03 21:49:10 Ubuntuserver weewxd[12628]: DEBUG weewx.drivers.vantage: 
>> Successfully woke up Vantage console
>> I started weewx and lookee here. Time to update conf file and see if it 
>> will  post to wunderground
>>
>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 9:48:35 PM UTC+2 bushtech wrote:
>>
>>> HI Tom
>>> Thanks
>>> I did your point 1 and did get TEST to come back on screen. The plot 
>>> thickens lol.
>>>
>>> I don't suppose I need to do test two
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 9:39:11 PM UTC+2 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>
>>>> And no luck so far with trying the cable on a linux mint machine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean that the "TEST" test failed on a completely independent 
>>>> machine? If so, that's a pretty clear indication of some kind of hardware 
>>>> problem. 
>>>>
>>>> Focus on getting the "TEST" test to work before getting WeeWX involved. 
>>>> Two things to try:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Unplug the power supply and remove the batteries. This will cause 
>>>> the console to reset. Reinstall batteries and power supply. Reconfigure if 
>>>> necessary, but you will probably only have to do a long press on "DONE".  
>>>> Now try the "TEST" test.
>>>> 2. Same as #1, but this time reseat the logger while power is off. 
>>>> Don't remove the logger when power is applied. Try the "TEST" test.
>>>>
>>>> -tk
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2026 at 12:23 PM bushtech <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Vince
>>>>> No. Ubuntu 26 long time already and weewx was running happily on it. 
>>>>> Just did an apt update/upgrade.
>>>>> The weewx reinstall was from this doc being followed:
>>>>> https://weewx.com/docs/5.5/quickstarts/debian/
>>>>> And modemmanager not installed
>>>>> And no luck so far with trying the cable on a linux mint machine
>>>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 9:14:35 PM UTC+2 Vince Skahan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to try to complete your problem description - did you go from 
>>>>>> ubuntu 24 to 26 ?  Sometimes major upgrades have issues.   And was it a 
>>>>>> clean installation or a dist-upgrade ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 11:49:52 AM UTC-7 bushtech wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sat Oct  3 20:31:11 2026] usb 1-4: USB disconnect, device number 2
>>>>>>> [Sat Oct  3 20:31:11 2026] pl2303 ttyUSB0: pl2303 converter now 
>>>>>>> disconnected from ttyUSB0
>>>>>>> [Sat Oct  3 20:31:11 2026] pl2303 1-4:1.0: device disconnected
>>>>>>> [Sat Oct  3 20:31:18 2026] usb 1-4: new full-speed USB device number 
>>>>>>> 8 using xhci_hcd
>>>>>>> [Sat Oct  3 20:31:19 2026] usb 1-4: New USB device found, 
>>>>>>> idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303, bcdDevice= 4.00
>>>>>>> [Sat Oct  3 20:31:19 2026] usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, 
>>>>>>> Product=2, SerialNumber=0
>>>>>>> [Sat Oct  3 20:31:19 2026] usb 1-4: Product: USB-Serial Controller D
>>>>>>> [Sat Oct  3 20:31:19 2026] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Prolific 
>>>>>>> Technology Inc. 
>>>>>>> [Sat Oct  3 20:31:19 2026] pl2303 1-4:1.0: pl2303 converter detected
>>>>>>> [Sat Oct  3 20:31:19 2026] usb 1-4: pl2303 converter now attached to 
>>>>>>> ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have only ever seen ttyUSBO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ps aux | grep weewxd
>>>>>>> dries      11036  0.0  0.0   9316  2616 pts/1    S+   20:40   0:00 
>>>>>>> grep --color=auto weewxd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used this: minicom -b 19200 -D /dev/ttyUSB0. Stopped weewx with sudo 
>>>>>>> systemctl stop weewx. But still nothing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the price of Davis stuff no I dont have a spare
>>>>>>> I will now remove modemmanager and try  the cable on another linux 
>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all the help. I really appreciate it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find it unlikely that I had a hardware failure concurrently with a 
>>>>>>> software update. I did do a complete reinstall of weewx yesterday
>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 8:33:14 PM UTC+2 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Earlier you said that you tried the minicom test described on the 
>>>>>>>> wiki page. To be clear, we are talking about the test described under 
>>>>>>>> Establishing 
>>>>>>>> connectivity 
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Troubleshooting-the-Davis-Vantage-station#establishing-connectivity>,
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> right? Make sure weewxd is stopped before trying the test. If the 
>>>>>>>> Vantage 
>>>>>>>> truly does not respond, then the problem lies with connectivity, and 
>>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>>> WeeWX. You need to solve that first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vince made some good suggestions. Follow them. To remove 
>>>>>>>> modemmanager do "sudo apt remove modemmanager".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You said that you are using a USB to serial cable. It is possible 
>>>>>>>> that the driver for the serial converter changed when you upgraded. Do 
>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>> have a different USB-to-serial cable that you can try? Alternatively, 
>>>>>>>> can 
>>>>>>>> you try the minicom test on another computer? 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2026 at 11:06 AM bushtech <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Tom
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for jumping in. 
>>>>>>>>> I hope this is enough: 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver systemd[1]: Started weewx.service - 
>>>>>>>>> WeeWX.
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: 
>>>>>>>>> Initializing weewxd version 5.5.2
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: Command 
>>>>>>>>> line: /usr/share/weewx/weewxd.py /etc/weewx/weewx.conf
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: Using 
>>>>>>>>> Python: 3.14.4 (main, Aug 20 2026, 10:41:58) [GCC 15.2.0]
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: Located 
>>>>>>>>> at:   /usr/bin/python3
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: 
>>>>>>>>> Platform:     Linux-7.0.0-38-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.43
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: Locale: 
>>>>>>>>>       'en_US.UTF-8'
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: Entry 
>>>>>>>>> path:   /usr/share/weewx/weewxd.py
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: 
>>>>>>>>> WEEWX_ROOT:   /etc/weewx
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: Config 
>>>>>>>>> file:  /etc/weewx/weewx.conf
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: User 
>>>>>>>>> module:  /etc/weewx/bin/user
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: Debug: 
>>>>>>>>>        1
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: User:   
>>>>>>>>>       weewx
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: Group: 
>>>>>>>>>        weewx
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO __main__: Groups: 
>>>>>>>>>       tty dialout plugdev weewx
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: DEBUG __main__: 
>>>>>>>>> loop_on_init: False
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: DEBUG __main__: 
>>>>>>>>> Initializing engine
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: INFO weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>> Loading station type Vantage (weewx.drivers.vantage)
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Driver version is 3.7.0
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Option loop_request=1
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:28 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Opened up serial port /dev/ttyUSB0; baud 
>>>>>>>>> 19200; 
>>>>>>>>> timeout 4.00
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Successfully woke up Vantage console
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: send_data: no <ACK> received from Vantage 
>>>>>>>>> console
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: _determine_hardware; retry #0: 'No <ACK> 
>>>>>>>>> received 
>>>>>>>>> from Vantage console'
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: send_data: no <ACK> received from Vantage 
>>>>>>>>> console
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: _determine_hardware; retry #1: 'No <ACK> 
>>>>>>>>> received 
>>>>>>>>> from Vantage console'
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: send_data: no <ACK> received from Vantage 
>>>>>>>>> console
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: _determine_hardware; retry #2: 'No <ACK> 
>>>>>>>>> received 
>>>>>>>>> from Vantage console'
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: send_data: no <ACK> received from Vantage 
>>>>>>>>> console
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: _determine_hardware; retry #3: 'No <ACK> 
>>>>>>>>> received 
>>>>>>>>> from Vantage console'
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Unable to read hardware type. Check for 2nd 
>>>>>>>>> instance 
>>>>>>>>> of weewx. Also, try power cycli
>>>>>>>>> ng.
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: ERROR weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>> Import of driver failed: Unable to read hardware type. Check for 2nd 
>>>>>>>>> instance of weewx. Also,
>>>>>>>>>  try power cycling.  (<class 'weewx.WeeWxIOError'>)
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****  Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/engine.py", line 109, in 
>>>>>>>>> setupStation
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****      self.console = loader_function(config_dict, self)
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****                     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line 
>>>>>>>>> 35, in 
>>>>>>>>> loader
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****      return VantageService(engine, config_dict)
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line 
>>>>>>>>> 2070, in 
>>>>>>>>> __init__
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****      Vantage.__init__(self, **config_dict[DRIVER_NAME])
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line 
>>>>>>>>> 542, in 
>>>>>>>>> __init__
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****      self._setup()
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****      ~~~~~~~~~~~^^
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line 
>>>>>>>>> 1468, in 
>>>>>>>>> _setup
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****      self.hardware_type = self._determine_hardware()
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line 
>>>>>>>>> 1459, in 
>>>>>>>>> _determine_har
>>>>>>>>> dware
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****      raise weewx.WeeWxIOError(msg)
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>     ****  weewx.WeeWxIOError: Unable to read hardware type. Check for 
>>>>>>>>> 2nd 
>>>>>>>>> instance of weew
>>>>>>>>> x. Also, try power cycling.
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL __main__: 
>>>>>>>>> Unable to load driver: Unable to read hardware type. Check for 2nd 
>>>>>>>>> instance 
>>>>>>>>> of weewx. Also, tr
>>>>>>>>> y power cycling.
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver weewxd[10160]: CRITICAL __main__:     
>>>>>>>>> ****  Exiting...
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver systemd[1]: weewx.service: Main 
>>>>>>>>> process exited, code=exited, status=4/NOPERMISSION
>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 19:57:29 Ubuntuserver systemd[1]: weewx.service: Failed 
>>>>>>>>> with result 'exit-code'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 7:37:21 PM UTC+2 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your little snippet shows no copies of weewxd running. 
>>>>>>>>>> What you're seeing is your grep command.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's get  a proper log to work with. Don't use systemctl status 
>>>>>>>>>> weewx. It just doesn't show enough context.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Set debug=1 in weewx.conf, restart weewxd, let it run for a 
>>>>>>>>>> reporting cycle (if possible), then post the log. Additional details 
>>>>>>>>>> on 
>>>>>>>>>> capturing a good log can be found here 
>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/view-logs>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2026 at 9:35 AM bushtech <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Not as far as i can see
>>>>>>>>>>> ps aux | grep weewxd
>>>>>>>>>>> dries       7716  0.0  0.0   9316  2616 pts/0    S+   18:34   
>>>>>>>>>>> 0:00 grep --color=auto weewxd
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 6:22:32 PM UTC+2 Tom Keffer 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****  weewx.WeeWxIOError: Unable to read 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware type. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check for 2nd instance of weew>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL __main__: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to load driver: Unable to read hardware type. Check 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for 2nd instance of weewx. Also, tr>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you check for a 2nd instance of weewx?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2026 at 8:21 AM bushtech <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Running weewx status again, seem changed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.service - WeeWX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/weewx.service; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled; preset: enabled)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sat 2026-10-03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17:03:21 SAST; 16min ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Duration: 6.924s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Invocation: c7dde2bbcbf74fd5bc98388f26395f8a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        Docs: https://weewx.com/docs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Process: 1987 ExecStart=weewxd /etc/weewx/weewx.conf 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (code=exited, status=4)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Main PID: 1987 (code=exited, status=4)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Mem peak: 24.8M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         CPU: 279ms
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****    File 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 1468, in _setup
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****      self.hardware_type = 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> self._determine_hardware()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****    File 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 1459, in _determine_har>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****      raise weewx.WeeWxIOError(msg)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****  weewx.WeeWxIOError: Unable to read 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware type. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check for 2nd instance of weew>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL __main__: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to load driver: Unable to read hardware type. Check for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd instance 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of weewx. Also, tr>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1987]: CRITICAL __main__: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ****  Exiting...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver systemd[1]: weewx.service: Main 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process exited, code=exited, status=4/NOPERMISSION
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 17:03:21 Ubuntuserver systemd[1]: weewx.service: Failed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with result 'exit-code'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lines 1-21/21 (END)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now complaining about vantage.py
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is line 1468
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1468             self.hardware_type = 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> self._determine_hardware()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and line 1459: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1459         raise weewx.WeeWxIOError(msg)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This was listed with nano -l
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesnt mean much to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 3:59:42 PM UTC+2 John Smith 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Start with the simple stuff, reconnect everything and check 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmesg to see if everything is detected properly when reconnected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume everything was working up until you installed the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new Ubuntu version, so it could be a bug/issue in the new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kernel, so maybe 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try downgrading the kernel and/or trying a back ported version 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if there is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could also be a cable issue, do you have a space to try?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2026 at 23:16, bushtech <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No reply out of the minicom or screen test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 2:59:42 PM UTC+2 John Smith 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, weewxd now owned by user weewx, was root.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has been since version 5.0.0 came out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Oct 03 14:23:52 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1986]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: send_data: no <ACK> received from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vantage cons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a wiki page for that too 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Troubleshooting-the-Davis-Vantage-station
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2026 at 22:50, bushtech <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a mil for your response.  Ok, weewxd now owned by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user weewx, was root. And did this: sudo usermod -aG dialout 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx to try 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and sort out the USB. No discernable difference noted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then ran:  sudo journalctl -u weewx -n 50 --no-pager
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 14:23:52 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1986]: DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Successfully woke up Vantage console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 03 14:23:52 Ubuntuserver weewxd[1986]: ERROR 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: send_data: no <ACK> received from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vantage cons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The second line is where the wheels came off.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm, lots of head scratching currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2026 at 1:34:20 PM UTC+2 John 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status=4/NOPERMISSION
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That pretty much says it all, weewxd doesn't have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission to access the USB device.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you looked at this page? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Understanding-permissions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It has a section on USB permissions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2026 at 18:14, bushtech <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conf. file 5.5.2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davis Vantage pro using USB to serial cable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During ubuntu update got the usual conf file out of date 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so kept old one. But afterwards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to use later conf. file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What worries me is Ubuntu 26 uses python 3.14.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The weewx documentation says this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *"Python*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Python 2.7, or Python 3.5 or later is required."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I between a rock and a hard place or am I being stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is what I get when doing sudo systemctl status 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 02 16:05:12 Ubuntuserver weewxd[19832]: CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine: **** File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/v> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct 02 16:05:12 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntuserver weewxd[19832]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: **** 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self.hardware_type 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = self._determine> Oct 02 16:05:12 Ubuntuserver 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewxd[19832]: CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine: **** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Oct 02 16:05:12 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntuserver 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewxd[19832]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: **** File 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/v> Oct 02 16:05:12 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntuserver 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewxd[19832]: CRITICAL weewx.engine: **** raise 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.WeeWxIOError(msg) Oct 02 16:05:12 Ubuntuserver 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewxd[19832]: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRITICAL weewx.engine: **** weewx.WeeWxIOError: Unable to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read hardw> Oct 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 02 16:05:12 Ubuntuserver weewxd[19832]: CRITICAL *main*: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to load driver: Unable to read hardware type. C> Oct 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 02 16:05:12 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntuserver weewxd[19832]: CRITICAL *main*: **** 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exiting... Oct 02 16:05:12 Ubuntuserver systemd[1]: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.service: Main 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process exited, code=exited, status=4/NOPERMISSION Oct 02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16:05:12 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntuserver systemd[1]: weewx.service: Failed with result 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'exit-code'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please tell me what is gong on here. Is this a hardware 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem now Am I missing something stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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