Re: [wc] Re: am I crazy to go to London in October?

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:56:20 -0700

Not all factions of Islam are in conflict with Judaism or Christianity. The number of Muslim who respect and coexist with other religions VASTLY outnumber those who don't but we don't see stories about them.
Not all terrorist are Muslims. Timothy McVeigh was Christian, IRA - Christian.
My father was Muslim (non-practicing) from Iran. He literally cries when he reads about the state of Iran now.
It is very sad when a whole group of people are painted by the same brush...
Daria
 
On 8/11/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

oh I'm SURE there is an attitude of, they got away with it on 9/11,
why wouldn't we get away with it now? These people obviously have no
respect for their own lives, not to mention anyone else's. In my
religion, Judaism, if you take your own life you aren't allowed to be
buried in a Jewish cemetery. At least I think that's the rule. This
whole "martyrdom" thing just doesn't fly with the us Jews. Islam has
been in conflict with Judaism and Christianity forever, literally,
and it ain't getting any better now. Just more advanced and
effective means of destruction. I don't think Mohammed really
preached for his followers to destroy everyone who doesn't follow his
teachings, but I honestly don'tknow for sure.



--- In [email protected], "Daria Akers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If it wasn't for 9/11 who knows if they would have been plotting
this? Our
> "war on terror" might be breeding terroist who feel like they have
nothing
> to lose and EVERYTHING (marderdom) to gain.
> I could be wrong (and I am guessing that the people here will
gladly share
> their point) but it sure seems like the number and scale of
terrorist
> activities have excalated since Sept 11th. Examples the London bus/
train
> bombings, the Madrid Bombings. Before Sept. 11th there were
terrorost events
> but not on the scale (like the Cole bombing, and the attack on the
US
> embassies in Africa, bombing of the parking garage of the twin
towers). Not
> only that but civilians are now acceptable and actually prefered
targets....
> when before it seemed to be more government and military targets.
> The truth is we don't know what MAJOR plans were stopped before
Sept 11th.
> There was no need publicize the fact that the governement stopped a
plot
> because the goal was not "to keep our people scared". The general
public,
> pre- 9/11 was oblivious to the threat and that was fine. As the
government
> attempts to limit personal freedoms they HAVE to keep us scared or
we
> wouldn't put up with it.
> That's just my two cents for what is worth.
> Daria
> PS I am not a conspiacy freak who believes that the US helped or
knowingly
> ignored the Sept 11 event but I do beieve that the current
governement had
> plans to invade Iraq BEFORE Sept 11.
>
>
>
> On 8/11/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > OK point taken, this is the least of my worries. But I am
pretty
> > sure that if it weren't for 9/11 they wouldn't have stopped this.
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters%
40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "Max H." <MaxH42@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Probably anyone who regularly uses duct tape or a soldering iron
> > would
> > > know about the can, we even have a mass-manufactured version at
> > home;
> > > I also happen to read spy novels and books on computer security
for
> > > fun. These are like puzzles.
> > >
> > > For example, you could buy a can of Coke, modify it, go to the
> > > airport, buy another, ditch it or drink it quickly, and use the
> > > receipt to prove you just bought your modified can. Very easy.
> > >
> > > -Max H.
> > >
> > > On 8/11/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure if I really want to know how/why you know this,
> > unless
> > > > it is common knowledge or common knowledge among readers of
murder
> > > > mysteries or something. I was thinking if I bought the can at
the
> > > > airport and had a receipt then I wouldn't have had the
> > opportunity to
> > > > do all that between buying it and boarding, but now I'm just
> > > > quibbling. Grrr.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters%
40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "Max H." <MaxH42@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, will all terrorists please leave the chat room?
> > > > >
> > > > > We'll wait....
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Messing with a can of soda is quite easy. A Dremel tool and
some
> > > > Krazy
> > > > > Glue will let you open up a can, replace its contents, and
put
> > it
> > > > back
> > > > > together so that no one would notice (if you cut right
under the
> > > > > folded over rim at the very top). Heck, it's a somewhat
popular
> > > > method
> > > > > of hiding valuables.
> > > > >
> > > > > So my guess is that they'll only allow the prescreened
beverages
> > > > > brought on by the airline.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, there are lots easier ways to hide liquids than a
> > can,
> > > > > involving capsules, condoms, or baggies. Or one
> > cleaning/maintenance
> > > > > person who has access to the plane during the preboard
routine.
> > > > >
> > > > > But don't let any of that discourage you from flying. All
this
> > was
> > > > > possible both before and after 9/11, and the methods I've
> > mentioned
> > > > > have never been used successfully.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Max H.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/10/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote:
> > > > > > why would you have to buy them there? You can just pack
them
> > in
> > > > your
> > > > > > suitcase. As I said I'm not planning to take a shower on
the
> > > > > > airplane. It's the water and stuff like that, although
they
> > > > usually
> > > > > > give you drinks even if they are skimpy on the food. What
I'm
> > > > really
> > > > > > curious about is whether you can take unopened canned
drinks
> > on
> > > > board,
> > > > > > and if not why not. Do they really think people are
> > sophisticated
> > > > > > enough to mess around with unopened canned drinks? Those
> > things
> > > > are
> > > > > > airtight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In

> > Tony Richards
> > > > > > <tonyrichards@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well we were due to fly to Heathrow from Dulles
tonight, but
> > > > just
> > > > > > before
> > > > > > > I bought the tix
> > > > > > > my son's cousin decided to get married this weekend.
> > However,
> > > > I've
> > > > > > > rescheduled for
> > > > > > > December and have no plans to cancel.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for not carrying on toothpaste and shampoo, I
remember
> > > > reading
> > > > > > > somewhere that there
> > > > > > > are places in the UK where these can be purchased. These
> > > > places are
> > > > > > > called shops.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > While I'm in the mood, why oh why, do people complain
about
> > not
> > > > being
> > > > > > > allowed to take
> > > > > > > nail-clippers. I can go a few hours without a manicure,
and
> > > > I'm sure
> > > > > > > I'm not alone.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for bottled water, just drink 3-4 liters before
security
> > > > then spend
> > > > > > > the flight recycling
> > > > > > > your urine. I have a gift for the obvious.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone need any other advice, just drop me a line. Glad
I
> > > > could be
> > > > > > of help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Tony
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ellen wrote:
> > > > > > > > no kidding. I wasn't really planning to bring
toiletries
> > in my
> > > > > > > > carryon anyway--what am I going to do with shampoo--
take a
> > > > shower on
> > > > > > > > the plane? But things like regular bottled drinking
> > water,
> > > > what the
> > > > > > > > hell? Sure I'll taste my own bottled water before
> > boarding
> > > > if you
> > > > > > > > insist. They keep telling us to bring our own food,
now
> > we
> > > > won't be
> > > > > > > > able to because we might have secretly hidden
explosives
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > applesauce? The fast food places in the airport
advertise
> > > > flight
> > > > > > > > meals. They think they're saving money by not feeding
us
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > plane--all they're really doing is giving us more
> > opporunity
> > > > to make
> > > > > > > > secret bombs out of chocolate pudding. or something
like
> > > > that.
> > > > > > > > We're all going to hell and it's too late to turn
back.
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