--- In [email protected], "Hannah Robinson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the lovely compliment, Cap'n.  Rest assured, the 
feeling's mutual.
> 
> Alas, I am unconvinced by your argument.  You've described each of
> those situations as an instance of a 'crime of opportunity'.  Jean
> Valjean/Leona Helmsley/Haley Joel Osment (speaking of which, what 
is
> this?  the Kevin Bacon rap sheet? Mel to M. Night to Haley Joel?) 
sees
> an opening, measures the risk, goes for it despite its being both
> illegal and wrong.
> 
> The problem with comparing violent crime to property crime or 
criminal
> negligence (not a lawyer yet, so I don't really know best how to
> characterize a DUI) is that the 'opportunity' presented is less
> 'how-can-I-get-away-with-behaving-irresponsibly-but-to-my-own-
benefit'
> and more 'how-can-I-hurt-someone'.
> 
> Basically, the victim is largely tangential to the criminal in your
> examples.  It's not personal.  They are tempted, and they suffer 
the
> weakness of mind to indulge.  In violent crime, the victim is the
> whole focus of the crime.  It requires not weakness of mind, but a
> broken one.  What is this irresistible temptation?  The victim's
> existence?

Hmmmm.  Very interesting argument.  Makes sense to me.

> 
> To my mind, accidentally leaving your door unlocked isn't the same 
as
> going to bar.  And I hope we can all agree, that neither one is
> 'asking for it.'
> 
> All I'm really trying to achieve is getting people to step back 
from
> the judging the victim thing.  Even if you are not, as I said 
before,
> all about making yourself feel more secure, it's still completely
> unhelpful in dealing with the root cause of crime (which is NOT
> keeping your kids on a leash/wearing a burqa/never leaving the 
hosue
> after sundown).  As unintentional as it may be, Blame the Victim 
is to
> a degree letting the attacker off the hook.  I ask that everybody 
keep
> that in mind.

Got it. 

> 
> Sermon over.  Praise Jeebus.

Hallelujiah!

> 
> (P.S. To Denise, I threw in the defrocked so I wouldn't get anyone
> telling me that not ALL priests are like that.  Sigh, sometimes a 
gal
> can't win.)
> 

No good deed goes unpunished, and all that.





 
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