Actually, what *really* makes them drop a brick are people like me. I literally don't see any ads most days. I use AdBlock [http://adblock.mozdev.org/] when browsing, and I own two ReplayTV DVRs that usually skip commercials automatically, so I almost never see TV commercials. I suppose I may occasionally look at some print ads, but they're the easiest to ignore, and I do much of my periodical reading online anyway.
(But set-top DVRs are on their way out; home theater PCs are the next wave now that set-top DVRs have had the commercial-skip feature sued out of them.) -Max H. On 12/9/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The media and their sponsors HATE people like you, you know. > Sometimes I think newspapers, radio, online media, etc. exist purely > as a means convincing advertisers to buy space or time. If customers > don't support the advertisers, the whole thing backfires. You think > market research or something would clue them in to the fact that there > are lots of people like you. Media doesn't have customers in the > usual sense of the word, they have sponsors. The product has to be > something that the advertisers' customers like, which is not > necessarily what the viewing audience likes. Or something like that. > > > --- In [email protected], "gina_ellis_ca" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I keep forgetting about advertising! I never look at it, in print or > > on websites...it's just part of the background noise. But wonderful > > if it works! > > > > -- In [email protected], "Ellen" <ellengoodman6@> > > wrote: > > > > > > the word of the day is ADVERTISING. Papers don't make much money > > from > > > readers for the print edition either--35c or whatever doesn't go too > > > far. But the more papers circulated, the more they get for > > > advertising. Also the more eyeballs on the website, the more they > > get > > > per ad. Exactly like TV--you get TV for free, right? Or you could > > if > > > you just wanted basic channels and had an antenna. But the more > > > people who watch each show the more they get for the ads. I > > > personally would rather have ads and get something for free than > > have > > > to pay for it, but obviously websites are experimenting with both. > > As > > > someone said here, many of us would be willing to pay for the Post > > > online if they are short of $. I think they are still trying to > > > figure out how to do that though. My 2c, although the Post will > > > probably try to charge more than that. > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Gina Ellis" > > > <gina_ellis@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ellen asked - How did you discover Gene and the chat? Are you a > > DC > > > > transplant, or > > > > is the column syndicated there? (I realize those aren't the only > > > > options.) > > > > > > > > Well, some of Gene's columns (on a rather random basis, it seems) > > are > > > > reprinted in lots of newspapers, including our local one. > > > > > > > > But basically I was trolling the internet (or the offers came to > > me - I > > > > forget now) and found FREE access to the NYT and the WP. I'd > > read a > > > few > > > > copies of the WP FTTT while passing in the vicinity of Washington > > > when we > > > > used to go to Florida for the winter and really liked it, but > > didn't > > > see it > > > > readily available anywhere. When I stumbled across it on the > > > internet, with > > > > daily delivery of chosen topics and columnists, access to more, > > and > > > then > > > > discovered the chats - wow! I'm about to give up on my local > > > papers, and > > > > our Canadian nationals (the best bits of which are on-line now > > too) > > > and just > > > > read the WP on-line. Save all that newsprint. > > > > > > > > NYT too, but it's kinda stuffy. The Post has good news coverage, > > > thoughty > > > > columnists - but has a really humane and witty approach. Esp. in > > the > > > > free-wheeling chats. Gene is tops, but I also like Hax and de > > > Moraes and > > > > the Reliable Source ladies and Robinson and I-forget (the guy on > > media). > > > > > > > > I'll have to ask I-forget (the guy on media) (Kurtz?) how > > newspapers > > > can > > > > possibly survive if people like me read them for nada. (The NYT > > at > > > least > > > > wants a little money for some of their columnists & features...) > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Enter the "Telus Mobility Xbox a Day" contest for your chance to > > > WIN! Telus > > > > Mobility is giving away an Microsoft Xbox(r) 360 every day from > > > November 20 to > > > > December 31, 2006! Just download Windows Live (MSN) Messenger to > > your > > > > IM-capable TELUS mobile phone, and you could be a winner! > > > > http://www.telusmobility.com/msnxbox/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- --Max H., moderator Freecycle Olney, MD, Freecycle Rockville
