Like Gina, advertising doesn't really bother me that much. Popup ads do, and the popup blocker takes care of most of that. But I mostly watch PBS anyway. Granted the shows sometimes seem like an excuse to have a pledge drive, but it's a good cause so I'm OK with it. For TV that's where subscribing to 9 magazines comes in handy--short attention span reading to the rescue! I have to read them anyway before the next ones come, so might as well do something productive during commericals. I'm not organized enough to remember to record shows. Am I the only one who still watches shows when they are originally broadcast? If I didn't I think I wouldn't get around to watching them at all because I wouldn't have a deadline so I wouldn't be motivated. I really don't like reading the paper online. With the paper edition I know when I'm done. Online if you don't read it early it gets updated and then you don't get the original stories because they have been replaced by the most recent news. Also I like to be able to read the paper anywhere. I read the Post online, but not thoroughly--only what's highlighted on the home page.
--- In [email protected], "Max H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, what *really* makes them drop a brick are people like me. I > literally don't see any ads most days. I use AdBlock > [http://adblock.mozdev.org/] when browsing, and I own two ReplayTV > DVRs that usually skip commercials automatically, so I almost never > see TV commercials. I suppose I may occasionally look at some print > ads, but they're the easiest to ignore, and I do much of my periodical > reading online anyway. > > (But set-top DVRs are on their way out; home theater PCs are the next > wave now that set-top DVRs have had the commercial-skip feature sued > out of them.) > > -Max H. > > On 12/9/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The media and their sponsors HATE people like you, you know. > > Sometimes I think newspapers, radio, online media, etc. exist purely > > as a means convincing advertisers to buy space or time. If customers > > don't support the advertisers, the whole thing backfires. You think > > market research or something would clue them in to the fact that there > > are lots of people like you. Media doesn't have customers in the > > usual sense of the word, they have sponsors. The product has to be > > something that the advertisers' customers like, which is not > > necessarily what the viewing audience likes. Or something like that. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "gina_ellis_ca" > > <gina_ellis@> wrote: > > > > > > I keep forgetting about advertising! I never look at it, in print or > > > on websites...it's just part of the background noise. But wonderful > > > if it works! > > > > > > -- In [email protected], "Ellen" <ellengoodman6@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > the word of the day is ADVERTISING. Papers don't make much money > > > from > > > > readers for the print edition either--35c or whatever doesn't go too > > > > far. But the more papers circulated, the more they get for > > > > advertising. Also the more eyeballs on the website, the more they > > > get > > > > per ad. Exactly like TV--you get TV for free, right? Or you could > > > if > > > > you just wanted basic channels and had an antenna. But the more > > > > people who watch each show the more they get for the ads. I > > > > personally would rather have ads and get something for free than > > > have > > > > to pay for it, but obviously websites are experimenting with both. > > > As > > > > someone said here, many of us would be willing to pay for the Post > > > > online if they are short of $. I think they are still trying to > > > > figure out how to do that though. My 2c, although the Post will > > > > probably try to charge more than that. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Gina Ellis" > > > > <gina_ellis@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ellen asked - How did you discover Gene and the chat? Are you a > > > DC > > > > > transplant, or > > > > > is the column syndicated there? (I realize those aren't the only > > > > > options.) > > > > > > > > > > Well, some of Gene's columns (on a rather random basis, it seems) > > > are > > > > > reprinted in lots of newspapers, including our local one. > > > > > > > > > > But basically I was trolling the internet (or the offers came to > > > me - I > > > > > forget now) and found FREE access to the NYT and the WP. I'd > > > read a > > > > few > > > > > copies of the WP FTTT while passing in the vicinity of Washington > > > > when we > > > > > used to go to Florida for the winter and really liked it, but > > > didn't > > > > see it > > > > > readily available anywhere. When I stumbled across it on the > > > > internet, with > > > > > daily delivery of chosen topics and columnists, access to more, > > > and > > > > then > > > > > discovered the chats - wow! I'm about to give up on my local > > > > papers, and > > > > > our Canadian nationals (the best bits of which are on-line now > > > too) > > > > and just > > > > > read the WP on-line. Save all that newsprint. > > > > > > > > > > NYT too, but it's kinda stuffy. The Post has good news coverage, > > > > thoughty > > > > > columnists - but has a really humane and witty approach. Esp. in > > > the > > > > > free-wheeling chats. Gene is tops, but I also like Hax and de > > > > Moraes and > > > > > the Reliable Source ladies and Robinson and I-forget (the guy on > > > media). > > > > > > > > > > I'll have to ask I-forget (the guy on media) (Kurtz?) how > > > newspapers > > > > can > > > > > possibly survive if people like me read them for nada. (The NYT > > > at > > > > least > > > > > wants a little money for some of their columnists & features...) > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Enter the "Telus Mobility Xbox a Day" contest for your chance to > > > > WIN! Telus > > > > > Mobility is giving away an Microsoft Xbox(r) 360 every day from > > > > November 20 to > > > > > December 31, 2006! Just download Windows Live (MSN) Messenger to > > > your > > > > > IM-capable TELUS mobile phone, and you could be a winner! > > > > > http://www.telusmobility.com/msnxbox/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --Max H., moderator Freecycle Olney, MD, Freecycle Rockville >
