Ah, well I'd rather it stay as is. The Khalifate era is not fully ready for mainline default; it needs more anims and more play testing for balancing. I think it should be added as part of the stable version for another cycle before its ready to be considered our best era. Does that make sense?
On 2014-02-03, at 9:45 AM, chris beck <[email protected]> wrote: > 1) Maybe instead of Classic we could have Default minus Khalifate? Or you > could just call it "Old Default". > > 2) I think it would be nice also if the stated goal of the tournament > tournament is not just balancing Khalifate but also improving the balance of > Default era generally. I'm not an MP expert personally but having been around > for a bit, specced my share of ladder games and spoken to some top tier > players, I think one could argue that Knalgan vs Undead, particularly on a > map like Sulla's ruins, is not significantly more balanced than the matchups > with Khalifate right now. > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Noy <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd rather it stay as Default + Khalifate for the time being. Its really a > new test era and changing its name to something that doesn't describe what it > is will likely confuse players. Compounding that issue is that its not > "classic" at all. Maybe for the subsequent stable we can change it, but > really, not at this stage. > > > On 2014-02-03, at 9:11 AM, Nils Kneuper <[email protected]> wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi folks! > > During dinner at FOSDEM 2014 we also discussed the topic of content which is > > new and unlikely to be much tested before the version is finally stable. We > > had problems with those "load tests" before (e.g. with the multiplayer > > lobby). > > Right now we might be facing an "issue" like this with the new race > > Khalifate. > > The current setup is as follows: > > > > * Default > > * Age of Heroes > > * Default + Khalifate > > * Age of Heroes + Khalifate > > > > I fear that not many people will use the "+ Khalifate" eras until the > > release > > is out and we get the complaints about them being unbalanced. At that time > > it > > is too late though due to our "(mp) compatibility" policy for stable series. > > Because of this I propose that we encourage the testing using two simple > > steps: > > > > 1) Naming changes. > > 2) Have some tournament(s) shortly after a new release which is centered > > around testing with/against the new faction. > > > > Re 1): > > What do you think of the following names? > > * Default > > * Age of Heroes > > * Classic > > * Classic Heroes > > > > Yes, especially the last one might need some more work. The idea is to have > > the era with the Khalifate preselected so that we might get some more > > testing. > > Yes, this will also require some slight rewrite of the description but it > > should not be rocket science, right? > > > > > > Re 2): > > Is anyone around who could get some small "feedback tournaments" started? I > > know that parts of our MP community already did lots of work on balancing > > the > > Khalifate, but some more can not hurt, right? > > > > > > Please comment on this mail. If I receive no (negative) comment at all I > > will > > just go ahead and change the names for the next development release which is > > planned for "very soon". > > > > Cheers, > > Nils Kneuper aka Ivanovic > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAlLvzb0ACgkQfFda9thizwUYDQCePn4uwQKzB+bvjiAv4OL00p6T > > JIAAnjNoBuePV/Hms0stgNkfS4/14YWL > > =XH9v > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wesnoth-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/wesnoth-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Wesnoth-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/wesnoth-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Wesnoth-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/wesnoth-dev
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