Dear friends, Why should returning money back to the central government be such a big issue? When we should in my humble view concern ourselves if such money gets utilized in the required rules for instance if you were asked to contruct 10 boreholes, were the 10 boreholes constructed. and if so did they meet the set standards or you simply constructed 10 boreholes at half the value you are accounting for? And the next day every one else to you is a peasant!. You and me know that money could as well have been spent accounted for using tricks of thieves in suits and still we in this forum would break our backs to try and improve livelihood in our region using our hard earned monies. The saying goes charity starts from home, i mean you cannot expect central government to be accountable to you if your own local government is not accountable. I think what changed between the last financial year and the financial years before is that controls have been stepped up and people who have being abusing government resources were caught on the wrong foot and could not get their hands to utilize these resources without geting in problems. Right from the centre things are tight now.
Decentralization has succeeded in many countries, the fact that it has not succeeded in Uganda doesnot mean decentralization is bad parse. But in my view its beacuse we have very weak societies and cultures, that worships wealthy chaps without looking into the source of their wealth. Therefor every one wants to be rich either by crook or its equivalent. As far as Mr. Abriga is concerned, i don't know why Mr. Bada Fred is bringing this up. The fact that he has not come after you speaks volumes and could may be mean your friends are suspected to have done things in improper ways. I guess you understand what i mean. And personally, i don't condone, my priniciple is if my own brother is caught stealing his own people or has wealth whose roots you can not trace, he takes responsibility for his acts. If he is in jail my job is to visit him and if he asks me to get him a lawyer to do that. THANK GOD THAT MONEY WAS SENT BACK TO THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT OTHERWISE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN UTILIZED HALFHAZARDLY, ACCOUNTED FOR BUT WITH NO IMPACT ON LIVES OF PEOPLE EITHER BECAUSE SUBSTANDARD WORK WAS DONE OR COMPLETELY NO WORK BUT SMART ACCOUNTABILITY. --- On Wed, 16/6/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 22, Issue 36 > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, 16 June, 2010, 13:58 > Send WestNileNet mailing list > submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Arua fails to spend 1.7 B > shillings (Ejoyi Xavier) > 2. Re: Arua fails to spend 1.7 B > shillings (Fred Bada) > 3. Re: MOSA MEETINGS (milburga atcero) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:16:36 +0300 > From: Ejoyi Xavier <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Arua fails to spend 1.7 B > shillings > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Friends, > > The issue of analysing budget performance is a bit more > complex than meets > the eye, spanning into multiple variables. Ejiku has hit > the nail on the > head, this is not something unique to Arua district or even > governmental > bodies! In utilising budgetary allocations, there are > numerous statutory > regulations that need to be complied with to the extent > that should one > thing delay (e.g the responsible staff is on study leave), > the entire chain > comes to a halt. In addition, I would not be surprised if > the Ushs 1.7B or > part of it being returned is from a certain donor who have > additional > guidelines quite often outside the GoU set procedures. > Besides, it would be > interesting to find out when the funds intended for > specific projects were > actually disbursed to the district. > > In my own assessment, this issue points to the fallacy of > decentralisation > we now enjoy in Uganda that is a start departure from what > it was in the mid > to late nineties. The fact that instead of empowering local > governments to > raise funds to support their priorities articulated in > their budgets, we > could rather subject them to tightly controlled central > government > disbursements, appointment of accounting officers, rules > and regulations is > in itself defeating to the concept of decentralisation. > > However, in all these there is always a place for > responsibility for the > local leaders that they may need to own up to. So it is > wise to assess the > whole extent of the problem. > > Ndugu Xavier Ejoyi > > > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM, peter odama > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > This is very unfortunate development, it appears the > elites and semi elites > > and the innocent beneficiaries in Arua don't > have capacity to utilize this > > money, but there was no way to defraud this money as > such, these monies were > > sent back as a result. > > > > All the local leaders in the district have pay dearly > 1st priority the > > heads in the district, and we need more dossiers to > back further argument > > and concrete defence, therefore we shall definitely > reach the societies in > > Arua for appropriate action. we have been crying the > government is not > > helping, but when she helps, we even don't know why we > are helped, this is a > > mess, and needs urgent corrective measures > > > > Odama > > > > > > On 16 June 2010 11:14, Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Arua Local Government is to return close to > Shillings 2,000,000,000/= > >> (two billion) to the Central Government after the > authorities failed to > >> utilise the funds. The money was meant for service > delivery during the > >> 2009/10 Financial year. The Sectors that failed to > use the money are works > >> and water departments (1.1bn), Education shs 322 > Million and peace recovery > >> and development program (276M). The unspent monies > were meant for > >> construction of community roads, drilling of bore > holes, construction of > >> schools and maintenance of feeder roads that is > according to the secretary > >> finance Arua District Local Government one Sam > Wadri Nyakua. > >> > >> This scenario is so annoying. We are breaking our > backs to ensure that our > >> region copes up with the rest in terms of > development, our local leaders are > >> obdurately failing us. what are your comments > ladies and gentlemen. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WestNileNet mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > >> > >> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > >> All Archives can be found at > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> > >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever > posted them (including > >> attachments if any). 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The List's Host is not > responsible for them in any way. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100616/08fd32c1/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:31:02 +0000 (GMT) > From: Fred Bada <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Arua fails to spend 1.7 B > shillings > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Freinds > > I have been reading many of your discussions on this net > and i have never participated in the discussions, coz i > always don't want to discuss on issues where i have very > little or no information. members on this particular topic > of discussion, i would advice that we go slow in reacting to > this matter. > > we need to understand how and why local governments can not > absorb monies sent to them for the intended service delivery > in their areas of jurisdiction. > > We know that these reaons range from late releases to > complications in the procurement procedures. > > Dear freinds we also need to interest our selves in the > harsh working condition in Arua under the leadership of Rtd. > Major Ibrahim Abiriga where staffs are beaten, jailed and > threatened every other time. Freinds remember this financial > year Engineer Pario and his three other collugues were > jailed and yet this was a period when they were to produce > bis documents, inspect and certify works and produce payment > certificates among others. these collegues suffered in the > hands of police being arrested, released and re arrested > this kind of suffering to me is the major couse of non > absorption of funds. > > Friends the law is very clear that when funds are committed > they are not to be returned and a local government only > needs to seek the authority of the accountant general to use > this funds. we only need to find out from the technical wing > weather these funds are commited. > > Bada Fred > > > > > ________________________________ > From: christine munduru <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, 16 June, 2010 2:36:00 > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Arua fails to spend 1.7 B > shillings > > > Dear all, > This comes back to accountability of our > leaders/governments to the citizens which I spoke about some > time back. I did say that while we struggle as WNF to cause > development in West Nile, we must hold our > leaders/governments accountable to their responsibilities > and members disagreed with me. Can you now see how local > governments in Arua are failing us? How many people lack > safe water in Arua, how many good murram roads do we have in > Arua. Just take the road to Ediofe as a nearby example, what > would be the reason to return such money in these > situations. Now if WNF was to look for funds for some of > these developments and the donors hear money for such things > being returned, who would take us serious? > > These are some of the issues that WNF should start engaging > in. I hear the University is in this years budget (not > sure), we are not hearing what is going on, I hope the money > wont be returned also. > > Thanks > > Christine > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Robert Ejiku <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 12:05:41 PM > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Arua fails to spend 1.7 B > shillings > > > Caleb, > > Its truly annoying but did he give reasons why. I know of > moments when Bushenyi has found itself in similar situations > perhaps because of what they now call absorption capacity > that John Nasasira's referred to when asked why the hefty 1 > trillion for roads was not utilized. But Kanungu complained > of bureaucracy and late releases especially where the PPDA > guidelines to procure goods, services and civil works > applies. > > One proposal to solve this problem was to look into the > guidelines and reduce on unnecessary red tape at the > Ministry of Finance (Azabo). > > Now I am sure our own in Government who are well versed > with these systems may want to educate us the laymen. > > But should it be sheer incompetence on the part of our > program implementers, then the idea of creating as many > districts as there are counties might now gain credence. > > Over to you fellows and all the best. > > > > > Ejiku > > > On 6/16/10, Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> > wrote: > Arua Local Government is to return close to Shillings > 2,000,000,000/= (two billion) to the Central Government > after the authorities failed to utilise the funds. The money > was meant for service delivery during the 2009/10 Financial > year. The Sectors that failed to use the money are works and > water departments (1.1bn), Education shs 322 Million and > peace recovery and development program (276M). The unspent > monies were meant for construction of community roads, > drilling of bore holes, construction of schools and > maintenance of feeder roads that is according to the > secretary finance Arua District Local Government one Sam > Wadri Nyakua. > > > >This scenario is so annoying. We are breaking our backs > to ensure that our region copes up with the rest in terms of > development, our local leaders are obdurately failing us. > what are your comments ladies and gentlemen. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >WestNileNet mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > >WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > >All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > >The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted > them (including attachments if any). 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We need > your input in preparations for this day. See you then. > > Those in Arua, the meetings are on Sunday 20th June 2010 at > West Nile Golf Club starting at 3:00pm. > > Thnaks and regards, > > Ejibua Sam Anguzu > CHAIRMAN - CENTRAL REGION > > > > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > [email protected] > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted > them (including attachments if any). 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