Dear Kiggundu, May you add TIBOA JULIUS, [email protected] as a member on the westnilenet?
Ismail ------------------------------ ________________________________ From: Kiggundu Mukasa <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, 30 September, 2010 19:58:08 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 92 Actually 7-15 years might be the best you will get! In many countries drug trafficking brings about death penalty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade#Legal_penalties In Malaysia they sentenced people to death this year for 1Kg of Marijuana 16 countries in Asia apply the death penalty for drug related offenses http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/06/22/end-death-penalty-drug-related-offenses In the Arab world, Saudi Arabia, Iran and UAE also kill drug traffickers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_capital_punishment_by_nation Just do not think about doing it and stay alive Kiggs On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, JohnAJackson wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, > >I may have been on the wrong side of the fence and sound unsympathetic. Here >are some pertinet facts. While we can pray, sympathize, whatever, > > >a) The said crime if at all committed is outside Uganda. The Uganda foreign >office in China has juridiction over its citizens who have problems in that >country. They are the ones to intervene in such circumstances. So does a >foreign >office in any other country. > >b) Trafficking narcotics is a serious criminal offence Internationally. Some >countries don't joke about this problem and deal with criminals severely& >harsely. As I had stated, the sentences range from 7-15 years, depending on >the >country, and degree of offence. > >c) Some of our Lawyers on this forum may know International Law, they are the >best people to investigate into this problem. I do know how much they can help >when a crime is committed overseas. > >d) Let's educate our brothers, sisters and youngesters who want to do >business >internationally to be extremely cautious/careful of the laws of each country. >Illegal business practice can result in long-term jail terms. Most countries >will not tolerate foreigners getting involved in any kind of criminal >activity. >First, you serve all the jail term and then deportation > >e) If you know of a relative, a friend or whatever, educate them to stay away >from narcotics business. It is a serious offence. If you get caught by >Interpol >or local security agencies, they will handle narcotic trafficking without any >mercy at all. > >f) If you don't believe or trust what I have said, I have live examples. Four >years ago a Jamaican woman was arrested at Heathrow Airport on Chrismas eve, >she had left 14month old baby in Kingston, she is serving 14 years in England. >Right after 1979 war, a woman from West Nile was arrested in France, she >served >14 years. There are too many examples to quote. > >On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:10 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >>You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >> >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 81 (banduga ismail) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:10:32 +0000 (GMT) >>From: banduga ismail <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 81 >>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>Dear All, >>For us to think that certain things are beyond the scope of this forum and yet >>these things affect us directly is being subjective and in the course >>inaccurate. The truth of the matter is that this issue is with us now. We >should >>ask ourselves: how can we ensure that not more of our brothers and sisters are >>recruited into criminal activities like this one? As Christine observed, if >>there is nothing we can do for those already in custody because of the >>international nature of the crime and the complexities involved, lets say so. >>But surely we can do alot more to ensure no more of our own are recruited. To >>think that its beyond the scope of the forum is being a little bit >conservative. >>Let us also admit that some people around us or in our communities may not know >>the consequences of somethings they do. For those of us who know, then we >should >>tell them. knowingly or unknowingly, we comit acts that the laws interprete >>either as crimes or not. >> >>Drug trafficking is a crime and so is murder, theft, corruption etc and the >>penalties differ from country to country. You know as much as I do that murder >>is a more painful and serious crime than drug business. Don't those charged of >>murder have rights? Haven't we seen or heard those who have committed murder >>being represented, visited, counselled, given medical care and sometimes >>released? As fr said, we pray for them. What we can't do, the Almight can do. >> >>Ismail >>-------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: JohnAJackson <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Wed, 29 September, 2010 17:05:12 >>Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 81 >> >> >>Foreign Business & Transections >> >>Dear friends brothers and sisters, >> >>There was a post by Banduga Ismail regarding some West Nilers arrested in China >>on drug charges. "what can we do for these people" >> >>First of all, we should encourage and educate people who want do business >>to engage in legitimate business and acquire all necessary licenses. If some >>individuals decide to invlove themsleves in criminal activities overseas, how >do >>we expect this community to help them, where do we start? Do we really want to >>condone or promote criminal activities? I think this issue is beyond the scope >>and purpose of WNF. Who does not understand drug trafficking is a violation of >>International Law? The sentence ranges from 14-15 years depending on the >>country. People who want to apply "Get Rich Quick Idealogy" should be held >>responsible for their own weakness. Criminal activity is unacceptable, should >>not be tolerated on this forum, period. >> >>It's very important that people who want to do International Business must >>undersnad the laws and regulations in the foreign countries where they want to >>operate. >> >>I rest my case. >> >>JJAvudria >> >> >>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>>You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >>> >>> >>>Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Our brothers and sisters in Jails in China (banduga ismail) >>> 2. Re: Guidelines for Organising Community Events (Ejibua Sam) >>> >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>Message: 1 >>>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:30:17 +0000 (GMT) >>>From: banduga ismail <[email protected]> >>>Subject: [WestNileNet] Our brothers and sisters in Jails in China >>>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >>>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>>Dear WNF, >>> >>>I want to believe that we are all aware that some of our brothers and sisters >>>are serving jail sentences in China, Iran and India. And this category are >>>serving jail sentences (sentences passed without legal representation) ranging >>>from 15 years to life imprisonment for the offence of possessing narcotic >>drugs. >>>I have some information about the caseload in China because one of them is my >>>sister and I periodically talk to her and the embassy. Some are in Beijin city >>>(Doka Zaitun, Driwaru Florence, Norah Dezu) while others are in Ghounzhou >city >>>(Habiba Musa, Bako Lucy, Drani Charles). I have received some letters from my >>>sister and her friends (all inmates) that are a little disturbing. All these >>>people are used by drug dealers who are here in Kampala but have consealed >>their >>>identities. >>> >>>Some few months ago, many of you might have seen, the media houses ran >articles >>>about Ugandans serving jail sentences in china. In the article, according to >>the >>>ambassador, there were 54 ugandans in jails in china and 35 of whom are ladies >>>in their early to mid thirties. >>> >>>I thought this is an issue worth sharing on this forum and we see if there is >>>anything we can do for our brothers and sisters, from a legal persepcetive or >>>advocacy perspective. I can understand that a crime is a crime and depending >on >>>the territory where it is committed, the punishments may vary. As we know, >>china >>>is rather a difficult country and her human rights rating is worrying. >>> >>>Ismail >>>-------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>>-------------- next part -------------- >>>An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>URL: >>>http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100929/9318d9ad/attachment-0001.html >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------ >>> >>>Message: 2 >>>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:38:42 +0300 >>>From: Ejibua Sam <[email protected]> >>>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Guidelines for Organising Community Events >>>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >>>Message-ID: >>> <[email protected]> >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>>Thanks members, >>> >>>I will incorporate any new ideas and present them for the consideration of >>>the rest. Lets keep strengthening the cooperation and coordination efforts >>>to the benefit of all. >>> >>>On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:36 PM, alaka caleb <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Sam Ejibua and group, we are proud of the work of this committee. >>>> members should take it seriously. We are taking the right direction >>>> cheers ladies and gentlemen >>>> >>>> On 9/28/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Dear All, >>>> > >>>> > Thanks for putting up this piece of directional focus together. This was >>>> a >>>> > great stuff. >>>> > >>>> > Best Regards >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Patrick >>>> > >>>> > From: Charles Dra-ecabo [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:06 AM >>>> > To: West Nile >>>> > Cc: Patrick Okuni; [email protected] >>>> > Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Guidelines for Organising Community Events >>>> > >>>> > Dear Sam, >>>> > >>>> > Thanks to the team for the good work. I like the idea of the social >>>> events >>>> > being specific. I believe similar guidelines will also be put in place >>>> for >>>> > other activities/events of the WNF. >>>> > Just one little thing. Did the team discuss eligibility. For now it may >>>> not >>>> > be an issue, but it may arise when there are conflicting date of events >>>> > involving an active member(one who has been participating in all events) >>>> and >>>> > a passive one who emerges from no where and would like to be supported. >>>> Just >>>> > something to think about. >>>> > >>>> > Kind Regards, >>>> > >>>> > Charles >>>> > >>>> > ________________________________ >>>> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 07:32:02 -0700 >>>> > From: [email protected] >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected] >>>> > Subject: [WestNileNet] Guidelines for Organising Community Events >>>> > Dear all, >>>> > >>>> > Attached are guidelines as discussed and adopted by a committee >>>> constituted >>>> > to support coordination and planning of events within the framework of >>>> WNF. >>>> > A copy will be placed at Naalya and other such places for members to read >>>> > and acquint themselves with. For additional information, dont hesitate to >>>> > contact the Chairman/Secretary as detailed in the attachment. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks and kind regards, >>>> > >>>> > Sam Ejibua >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list >>>> > [email protected] http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>>> > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/All >>>> > Archives can be found at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>>> > attachments if any). 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