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Kiggundu On Oct 1, 2010, at 8:40 AM, banduga ismail wrote: > Dear Kiggundu, > > May you add TIBOA JULIUS, [email protected] as a member on the > westnilenet? > > Ismail > ------------------------------ > > From: Kiggundu Mukasa <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, 30 September, 2010 19:58:08 > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 92 > > > Actually 7-15 years might be the best you will get! > > In many countries drug trafficking brings about death penalty > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade#Legal_penalties > > In Malaysia they sentenced people to death this year for 1Kg of Marijuana > > 16 countries in Asia apply the death penalty for drug related offenses > http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/06/22/end-death-penalty-drug-related-offenses > > In the Arab world, Saudi Arabia, Iran and UAE also kill drug traffickers > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_capital_punishment_by_nation > > Just do not think about doing it and stay alive > > Kiggs > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, JohnAJackson wrote: > >> Ladies and gentlemen, >> >> I may have been on the wrong side of the fence and sound unsympathetic. >> Here are some pertinet facts. While we can pray, sympathize, whatever, >> >> a) The said crime if at all committed is outside Uganda. The Uganda foreign >> office in China has juridiction over its citizens who have problems in that >> country. They are the ones to intervene in such circumstances. So does a >> foreign office in any other country. >> >> b) Trafficking narcotics is a serious criminal offence Internationally. Some >> countries don't joke about this problem and deal with criminals severely& >> harsely. As I had stated, the sentences range from 7-15 years, depending on >> the country, and degree of offence. >> >> c) Some of our Lawyers on this forum may know International Law, they are >> the best people to investigate into this problem. I do know how much they >> can help when a crime is committed overseas. >> >> d) Let's educate our brothers, sisters and youngesters who want to do >> business internationally to be extremely cautious/careful of the laws of >> each country. Illegal business practice can result in long-term jail terms. >> Most countries will not tolerate foreigners getting involved in any kind of >> criminal activity. First, you serve all the jail term and then deportation >> >> e) If you know of a relative, a friend or whatever, educate them to stay >> away from narcotics business. It is a serious offence. If you get caught by >> Interpol or local security agencies, they will handle narcotic trafficking >> without any mercy at all. >> >> f) If you don't believe or trust what I have said, I have live examples. >> Four years ago a Jamaican woman was arrested at Heathrow Airport on >> Chrismas eve, she had left 14month old baby in Kingston, she is serving 14 >> years in England. Right after 1979 war, a woman from West Nile was arrested >> in France, she served 14 years. There are too many examples to quote. >> >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:10 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 81 (banduga ismail) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:10:32 +0000 (GMT) >> From: banduga ismail <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 81 >> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear All, >> For us to think that certain things are beyond the scope of this forum and >> yet >> these things affect us directly is being subjective and in the course >> inaccurate. The truth of the matter is that this issue is with us now. We >> should >> ask ourselves: how can we ensure that not more of our brothers and sisters >> are >> recruited into criminal activities like this one? As Christine observed, if >> there is nothing we can do for those already in custody because of the >> international nature of the crime and the complexities involved, lets say so. >> But surely we can do alot more to ensure no more of our own are recruited. To >> think that its beyond the scope of the forum is being a little bit >> conservative. >> Let us also admit that some people around us or in our communities may not >> know >> the consequences of somethings they do. For those of us who know, then we >> should >> tell them. knowingly or unknowingly, we comit acts that the laws interprete >> either as crimes or not. >> >> Drug trafficking is a crime and so is murder, theft, corruption etc and the >> penalties differ from country to country. You know as much as I do that >> murder >> is a more painful and serious crime than drug business. Don't those charged >> of >> murder have rights? Haven't we seen or heard those who have committed murder >> being represented, visited, counselled, given medical care and sometimes >> released? As fr said, we pray for them. What we can't do, the Almight can do. >> >> Ismail >> -------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: JohnAJackson <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, 29 September, 2010 17:05:12 >> Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 81 >> >> >> Foreign Business & Transections >> >> Dear friends brothers and sisters, >> >> There was a post by Banduga Ismail regarding some West Nilers arrested in >> China >> on drug charges. "what can we do for these people" >> >> First of all, we should encourage and educate people who want do business >> to engage in legitimate business and acquire all necessary licenses. If some >> individuals decide to invlove themsleves in criminal activities overseas, >> how do >> we expect this community to help them, where do we start? Do we really want >> to >> condone or promote criminal activities? I think this issue is beyond the >> scope >> and purpose of WNF. Who does not understand drug trafficking is a violation >> of >> International Law? The sentence ranges from 14-15 years depending on the >> country. People who want to apply "Get Rich Quick Idealogy" should be held >> responsible for their own weakness. Criminal activity is unacceptable, >> should >> not be tolerated on this forum, period. >> >> It's very important that people who want to do International Business must >> undersnad the laws and regulations in the foreign countries where they want >> to >> operate. >> >> I rest my case. >> >> JJAvudria >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >> > [email protected] >> > >> >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > [email protected] >> > >> >You can reach the person managing the list at >> > [email protected] >> > >> >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >> > >> > >> >Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Our brothers and sisters in Jails in China (banduga ismail) >> > 2. Re: Guidelines for Organising Community Events (Ejibua Sam) >> > >> > >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >Message: 1 >> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:30:17 +0000 (GMT) >> >From: banduga ismail <[email protected]> >> >Subject: [WestNileNet] Our brothers and sisters in Jails in China >> >To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> > >> >Dear WNF, >> > >> >I want to believe that we are all aware that some of our brothers and >> >sisters >> >are serving jail sentences in China, Iran and India. And this category are >> >serving jail sentences (sentences passed without legal representation) >> >ranging >> >from 15 years to life imprisonment for the offence of possessing narcotic >> drugs. >> >I have some information about the caseload in China because one of them is >> >my >> >sister and I periodically talk to her and the embassy. Some are in Beijin >> >city >> >(Doka Zaitun, Driwaru Florence, Norah Dezu) while others are in Ghounzhou >> >city >> >(Habiba Musa, Bako Lucy, Drani Charles). I have received some letters from >> >my >> >sister and her friends (all inmates) that are a little disturbing. All these >> >people are used by drug dealers who are here in Kampala but have consealed >> their >> >identities. >> > >> >Some few months ago, many of you might have seen, the media houses ran >> >articles >> >about Ugandans serving jail sentences in china. In the article, according to >> the >> >ambassador, there were 54 ugandans in jails in china and 35 of whom are >> >ladies >> >in their early to mid thirties. >> > >> >I thought this is an issue worth sharing on this forum and we see if there >> >is >> >anything we can do for our brothers and sisters, from a legal persepcetive >> >or >> >advocacy perspective. I can understand that a crime is a crime and >> >depending on >> >the territory where it is committed, the punishments may vary. As we know, >> china >> >is rather a difficult country and her human rights rating is worrying. >> > >> >Ismail >> >-------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> > >> >-------------- next part -------------- >> >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> >URL: >> >http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100929/9318d9ad/attachment-0001.html >> > >> > >> >------------------------------ >> > >> >Message: 2 >> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:38:42 +0300 >> >From: Ejibua Sam <[email protected]> >> >Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Guidelines for Organising Community Events >> >To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >> >Message-ID: >> > <[email protected]> >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> > >> >Thanks members, >> > >> >I will incorporate any new ideas and present them for the consideration of >> >the rest. Lets keep strengthening the cooperation and coordination efforts >> >to the benefit of all. >> > >> >On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:36 PM, alaka caleb <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Sam Ejibua and group, we are proud of the work of this committee. >> >> members should take it seriously. We are taking the right direction >> >> cheers ladies and gentlemen >> >> >> >> On 9/28/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Dear All, >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for putting up this piece of directional focus together. This was >> >> a >> >> > great stuff. >> >> > >> >> > Best Regards >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Patrick >> >> > >> >> > From: Charles Dra-ecabo [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:06 AM >> >> > To: West Nile >> >> > Cc: Patrick Okuni; [email protected] >> >> > Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Guidelines for Organising Community Events >> >> > >> >> > Dear Sam, >> >> > >> >> > Thanks to the team for the good work. I like the idea of the social >> >> events >> >> > being specific. I believe similar guidelines will also be put in place >> >> for >> >> > other activities/events of the WNF. >> >> > Just one little thing. Did the team discuss eligibility. For now it may >> >> not >> >> > be an issue, but it may arise when there are conflicting date of events >> >> > involving an active member(one who has been participating in all events) >> >> and >> >> > a passive one who emerges from no where and would like to be supported. >> >> Just >> >> > something to think about. >> >> > >> >> > Kind Regards, >> >> > >> >> > Charles >> >> > >> >> > ________________________________ >> >> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 07:32:02 -0700 >> >> > From: [email protected] >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; >> >> [email protected] >> >> > Subject: [WestNileNet] Guidelines for Organising Community Events >> >> > Dear all, >> >> > >> >> > Attached are guidelines as discussed and adopted by a committee >> >> constituted >> >> > to support coordination and planning of events within the framework of >> >> WNF. >> >> > A copy will be placed at Naalya and other such places for members to >> >> > read >> >> > and acquint themselves with. For additional information, dont hesitate >> >> > to >> >> > contact the Chairman/Secretary as detailed in the attachment. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks and kind regards, >> >> > >> >> > Sam Ejibua >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list >> >> > [email protected] http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> >> > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/All >> >> > Archives can be found at >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> >> > attachments if any). 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