Dear all, Am sorry to drag you back to what was discussed and possibly disposed of way back in January if not December just because I came across the case of Guatemala who are suing US for infecting their natives with Syphilis and Gonorrhea. If you can find time read the following links for more details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11457552 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12739793 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11454789
My only cry is only if we had the political will may be something would be done about our situation. sorry for wasting your time. moe On 11/30/10, moses akuma <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Dr. William! > I have always seen Aids as a "crafted reality" that is aimed at continuing > the > politics of managing the 'vulnerable'. "The politics of Poverty and > disease" > is real. I mean at one time all fluids from a human could infect and now > mothers > can milk themselves to feed their children from cups.......One of the > couples > could have the virus and the other not........Oh No! > > > Just like we are told to be dependent on God these guys have always designed > ways of making us dependent on there prescriptions. > > > What we are discussing is like calling an armed thief by name I hope the > thief > spares us on this because it is painful to read such provoking experience. > > Kind Regards > Moses Akuma Odims > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: William Worodria <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 6:30:47 PM > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Mass experiements in Uganda - Testing diseases in > West Nile district in Uganda > > > Dear Ismail and Gilbert, > > I have not read this book but the issues therein are very intriguing....and > no > straight forward explanation may be forthcoming. I have come across bits and > pieces of these information. "Covert" issues remain clouded since efforts > are > made to clean the tracks. > > The answer to the cause of AIDS raises more questions than answers. Military > experiments? From the monkeys? ...These folks have been eating this stuff > for > generations. > > > Again more questions than answers. We certainly need to know lots more about > ourselves, where we come from and who we interact with for what reasons... > > Worodria > > > ________________________________ > From: Adibo Gilbert <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 13:22:09 > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Mass experiements in Uganda - Testing diseases in > West Nile district in Uganda > > > Ismail, > > All this points to us thoroughly using our grey matters and asking critical > questions and further to read in between the lines for every foreign > development > that appears too good. > > Man, this Capitalist world does not just "give away" money and any pennies > spent > serve a purpose whether it be through Charity donations or religious > generosity > by the so called donor. > > > Certainly, this is is an eye opener subject to the verasity of the > authenticity > of write up in the book. There is however no smoke without fire-so it is > said! > It would interest me to read alot further should I come across this > particular > book. Any ideas where one can reach the text? > > Time to do some critical thinking and reading between lines, nothing for > nothing! > > Thanks Ismail. > > Gilbert > > > > > ________________________________ > From: banduga ismail <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 3:24:48 PM > Subject: [WestNileNet] Mass experiements in Uganda - Testing diseases in > West > Nile district in Uganda > > > Dear All, > > As we tend towards the end of the year and partake in get together and > christmas > parties, I would like to share the subject with all of you. I pray that it > does > not spoil the parties we have in plan. I hope I don't look like a prophet of > doom. > > I am reading a book (the shortened version) titled AIDS: Origin, Spread and > Healing by Wolf Geisler, a German Doctor and I have found socking > revelations. > Many members of this forum probably have read this book already. The forward > of > this book was written by Ricardo Veronesi, a professor emiritus, faculty of > medicine, University of Sao Paulo and hononary president of Brazilian > Society > for infectious diseases and W.H.O consultant of bacterial diseases. > > In the summary page of this book, the following are stated among others: > 1. "97% of the persons who have HIV in their bodies, were purposely > infected > with this virus, which can lead to AIDS. They were made artificially > susceptible > for this by using controllable diseases. HIV was supplied to them in > vaccines, > drugs, blood transfusions and food, by HIV containing microbes in drinking > water > and water used in swimming pools, by insects and spraying". > 2. "The agents causing the AIDS diseases were mainly reasearched in > military > service and maily tested in Uganda and Zaire. Reasearch is done under > camouflage > titles." > 3. "The majority of people affected by AIDS/HIV are dark-skinned people > in > some > states in Africa, in the USA and Caribbean, as well as homosexual men and > persons using crack or heroin in some industrialised states." > On page 164, the author states: "In many regions of the world, humans have > been > used as test persons and also targets for biological weapons, e.g in > Colombia, > Ghana, Venezuela, ...... and particularly great numbers were used in > bandundu(Zaire) and in the West Nile district of Uganda. The majority of > experiments were carried out in Uganda - even out side West Nile region". > The > author further states: > * In Uganda, a natural experiment has occurred..... The elucidation of > this > distribution (Kaposi's sarcoma) presents an opportunity to discover the > cause > and nature of this puzzling disease. > * Uganda is particularly well suited to the study of environmental > factors > in > human disease. > * Uganda........ might have been designed as a huge natural experiment. > * Uganda's AIDS epidemic........seems to have started a bit earlier - > Uganda is > the bellwether for Africa - a case study of the future. > On the same page, the first description of the persons in Uganda in 1901 by > a > British physician, Cook, was:"The natives themselves are very intelligent, > clean > and spendidly developed physically. Malignant diseases are however not > neraly as > frequent as they are at home (Great Britain) and appear to run a slower > course." > Dr. Wolf further explains that; > - In 1936, the yellow fever research institute was founded in Entebbe, an > institution set by the British government and rockerfeller foundation. > - In 1938, a mountain road was built from Fort Portal in Bwamba region, > which > was the most isolated county in Uganda and in 1942, the rockefeller > institute > was then active there. > - In 1939 - the Arua airport was constructed in West Nile without any > recognisable reason. The reason given was the beef in Arua to be specially > good > tasting and was therefore to be flown to Kampala, 800 km away. > - In 1940 - the West Nile Virus was demonstrated > - In 1941 - the Bwamba fever virus > - In i944 - the semilik forest virus in Bwamba > - In 1946 - the Bunyamvera virus and Mengo encephalitis virus. > Where Cook had found comparatively few diseases in 1901 in the densely > populated, highly agriculturally cultivated country, now world wide unique > clusters of rare diseases and agents are found. > > On page 165, the author states: In Uganda, people from the West Nile > district in > particular were used as experimental and test objects for biological > weapons. > the region is intensely cultivated for agricultural purposes. There are 250 > people per square mile in the Lugbara Plateau for example. The inhabitants' > freedom of movement is limited an can easily be controlled by the state > boundaries with Sudan in the north and zaire (now DRC) in the south, lake > Albert > (the Mobutu sese seko) in the south and Albert Nile. In 1969, 600,000 > inhabitants lived there. It was therefore easy for the observers to monitor > the > spread of diseases. According to the author, the following quotation from > scientific articles point to this fact: "In Uganda there exists a natural > experiement as, within small distances, people of different ethnic stock > live in > similar environments and vice versa. This was how the scientists > characterised > the conditions for their experiments in West Nile district. The results of > their efforts: > - In 1973, 66% of the children of one study, which included 46,000 children > mainly from three regions around Kuluva, were infected with HI virus, > - Only there - prior to the onset of the mass AIDS disease - were temporal > and > local clusters of Kaposi's sarcoma; these were so marked that they proved an > infectious cause, > - Only there were temporal and local clusters of Burkitt's lymophomas in > children - also proof of an infectious disease, > - The highest rate of antibodies against Epstein -Bar virus in the world > came up > over there. ENV "type B" is only found besides in New Guinea, in the West > Nile > district and on the isle of Reunion, > - The largest incidences in the world of Schistosoma mansoni-infections have > been there. It was limited to the area around the village of Pakwach on the > Nile > and allegedly remained inexplicable. > > On page 166, the author states: In 1941 the US American E.H Williams was > commissioned by the Protectant African Inland Mission, which received > financial > assistance from agencies in USA to build a mission hospital in the district > administration centre of Arua. The USA physicians offered as a speciality > cancer > treatment. This investment was made in anticipation of the diseases which > were > to strike the area at a later date. In 1951, the hospital was moved away > from > the town into the open country to Kuluva, six mile south of Arua. In the > same > year, the US Americans established a recording system extraordinary for a > district hospital. All patients' data were recorded in a catalogue form. > What > was the real issue here was data on the diseases and not on the patients. > > Members, this is a long and perhaps boring piece. What do you make of this? > As > citizens of West Nile, does it worry us today, that we have been used as > test > objects without our knowledge? It worries me as person and that is why I am > sharing this piece on the net. Its not exhaustive, I just picked some few > highlights. The book is of 288 pages. Lets discuss this and see if there is > anything we can do, public interest issue from legal point of view, or a > political issue. > > > _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list [email protected] http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. _______________________________________________
