Dear Vasco, My thinking tend to differ in that the truth is, the accidents have occurred and lives have been lost, not only few but many. That alone is a cause enough for us to react. Whether the driver or the management is on the wrong should not be a question for us to investigate because as a passanger, your safety is in the hands of the bus owners, the passenger doesnt drive and therefore I am not sure if the burden really lies on us to prove this but what we can prove is accidents have occured and people have died. Therefore I think such a memo is in order for us to show concern, perhaps we just needed to fine tune.
But we seemed to have all chickened out, and without a leader, it would be difficult to know who is writing this letter and what the interest is, it cannot be an individual letter, otherwise you risk being labelled by the same people you think you are trying to help. Milton you have tried and only let down by our usual practice, so take it easy Christine On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Members, > > I have read the memo Anguyo Milton has posted for people to review, > correct and add information, but I am not convinced that in the memo we > have enough evidence to pin these accidents to the management. It is a fact > that these accidents have occurred with loss of many lives and property. I > think as concerned community we need to truly establish the real causes of > these accidents before we put entire blame on the owners of these buses. No > bus owner is his right sense will encourage a driver to drive recklessly > and cause accidents. Just because a driver is on the steering wheel is not > enough associate every accident to his reckless driving. I am sure a number > of people on this forum drive and at one time or another have experienced > accidents or near accidents. > If within this bus companies there is a specific driver who seems to be > the one mostly involved in these accidents, then there is a reason to > associate that driver with the rampant accidents in the many instances, and > it would be correct to write to the bus owners to deal with the specific > driver. If the mechanical conditions of the buses are established as unfit, > then we have a reason to blame the bus owners for their ineptitudeness in > conducting their business. > This memo has no credible evidence of facts to pin either the bus owners > or the drivers about the causes of the accidents. We need to do a due > diligence to establish facts about these accidents before we begin to > radically react with such memos. > I think it is important for people who want to write memos to get facts > about these accidents and state the facts in such memos, rather than the > generalized assumption that the owners are responsible for these accidents. > Out of about 10 accidents in which these buses are involved, what has been > the location where these accidents happen and at what general time do these > ACCIDENTS happen. > It is my contention that we rather establish the facts of these accidents > before rushing into writing any memo to the bus owners with such threats as > boycotting riding the buses or threatening demonstrations. If indeed we > are concerned about these accidents as expressed in this forum, then the > desire to get the true facts of these accidents would be unprecedented. > > Vasco > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:09 PM, anguyo milton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> --- On *Fri, 5/18/12, [email protected] < >> [email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 34 >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Friday, May 18, 2012, 5:00 AM >> >> Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >> >> [email protected]<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >> [email protected]<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >> [email protected]<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. our memo/note to the bus operators - Vis-?-vis chains of >> accidents (Sebastian Owilla) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:07:39 +0300 >> From: "Sebastian Owilla" >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> To: >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Subject: [WestNileNet] our memo/note to the bus operators - Vis-?-vis >> chains of accidents >> Message-ID: >> >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=69c508326532bf4c8b2cb735263af1be02f39...@mail.mrcuganda.org> >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear Contemporaries, >> >> >> >> I agree with the viewpoints of Milton - obtaining statistically >> defendable overall causes/triggers of these frequent accidents, voicing our >> concern, and then putting forth suggestive approaches to decrease on this >> frequency. >> >> >> >> While establishing the cause of these accidents, given the skills that we >> have, let us try to talk to the machine operators themselves (I mean >> drivers, their assistants - oka Turn Boys, and also the mechanics). >> Thorough and confidential investigative approach towards this particular >> segment of the system should yield for good data. >> >> >> >> Keep up >> >> >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> >> >> >> MRC/UVRI Uganda Research Unit on AIDS >> P. 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