In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hrvoje Niksic said:
> "James C. McMaster (Jim)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > This could be a great resource, but (I hate to say this) it has been
> > rendered more trouble than it is worth by the stubbornness and
> > stupidity of the owner.  He has turned a deaf ear to all pleas to do
> > something, ANYTHING, to stop the flood of spam, viruses and
> > annoyances posted to the list.
> 
> Actually, I was planning to work on the spam problem this weekend.
> (Don't for a moment think I'm not annoyed by it.)  It *will* be
> resolved, hopefully to everyone's satisfaction.  But if several spams
> are enough to detract you from a "useful" resource and resort to
> name-calling targeted at the very person who created it, I cannot
> honestly feel dismayed by your choice.
> 
"Several" does not begin to describe it.  This has been going on for a long 
time, and it is several per day.  This has been discussed for weeks, and you 
have never before expressed any inclination to "work on" the problem.  I do 
appreciate your effort in creating the list, but good intentions do not 
prevent a person's doing foolish things that lessen the good achieved by his 
efforts.

> > This is the one and only mailing list that still maintains this
> > policy,
> 
> This is a factually incorrect statement.
> 
Pardon me.  In my pique, I left out a phrase.  If should have been, "This is 
the one and only mailing list to which I subscribe that...".  My apologies.  
I tried to filter the spam by putting my wget-filing recipe after my 
spam-filtering recipes in .procmailrc, but for some reason that makes the 
wget-filing recipe fail intermittently.  I finally gave up after weeks of 
trying.  The material on this list is not worth the effort.
 
> > I will continue to use it without support, because getting support
> > is more trouble than it is worth.
> 
> Don't forget that you can always post to the mailing list *without*
> being subscribed.  :-)  Who knows, maybe one day you'll reap the
> benefits of what you are badmouthing right now.
> 
Not likely.  If I need to access the list, I will resubscribe.  If I want 
support, I will exert the miniscule effort to send an email to the right 
place.  I do not see why you feel that to be an onerous task.  If I want to 
be sure of seeing the answer, I will want to be on the list, because someone 
might answer on the list and not to me personally.  Then I will not see it if 
I am not subscribed.
> 
> I respectfully ask the other participants to extend their patience for
> some more days.  I apologize for not having provided a better solution
> already.  Despite the insults, I do not deny my part of the blame --
> it is just your method (of dealing with spam) I disagree with.
> 
My patience has reached an end.  Perhaps, now that you have (for the first 
time) indicated you will do something to fix the problem, the possible light 
at the end of the tunnel will convince others to stay.
-- 
Jim McMaster
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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