Very close to how I do it.

My WUG Cluster, yes I have it clustered, is dependent on the switch it is
connected to. Every other switch in the datacenter is dependent on that
switch. If the switch fails then via the modem I dial another region to send
SMTP. Further each Region has a map with the core regional router and
containers that represent each of the offices and those containers are
dependent on the core regional router. Then each office container has a
router and all of the devices (switches, servers) that are dependent on the
office router. There is more here but you get the idea.

I would like to add that this is spread over 150+ maps and if the dependency
polling was not there it would take the WUG service to its knees trying to
get to the 10,000 items. I know I have seen it happen.

Yes I have my maps in different subdirectories which make it easy to deal
with... It is easy to setup and I you know you can even link to maps on
other WUG servers...

On the flip side I monitor all unused static server IP's and send an alert
if one comes online.

:>

Tv




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Cook
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 5:09 PM
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Subject: RE: [WhatsUp Forum] User Stories on Dependencies - research request

This is what I do.  Each branch map has all routers going to it.  Lucky for
me it is a short list.  The switch located at the branch is set as the up
dependent for all of the equipment at the branch.  The switch is then up
dependent on the branch router.  I then have our core router on the map as
well.  It is set to services only, and checks the port for that branch.  The
branch router is up dependent on the core router, and the core router is
down dependent on the branch router.  This keeps the core router from
getting a lot of extra polls.  It only gets polled from that map if the
branch router can't be reached.  

You could even then set an alert to that branch to let them know they are
down but it is because of the core not there router.  

Another option would be to not make it down dependent on the branch router
and take that interface of the core router on the main map.  I guess it all
depends as to how you want to look at it.

Jeff Cook
Network Administrator
Whatcom Educational Credit Union


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Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 6:06 AM
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reque st


Now this may be the question you un-ask. (hehehe)

The main problem I face is acurate knowledge of remote lan equipment. If
there are 5 hops from my central monitoring system and the remote device, I
need to use dependencies to avoid false notifications. So... Everymap has my
central router and then the next router and so on until my device. It gets
even more complicated if there is a firewall introduced between segments.
Set-up like this works for the most part. I do have a disclaimer at the
bottom of the alerts to the local sites stating that it is possible the
device is up even though I report is as being down.

I hope this gets things started for you. I also would like to see what
others have to say.

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Ferrier
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 3:43 PM
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Subject: [WhatsUp Forum] User Stories on Dependencies - research request


Hey All,

 I'm interested in gathering end user stories on how you are using Up
(and Down) Dependencies on your maps.  What is the basic value you gain
from this feature?  (don't worry it's not going away)

 We already know that there is a desire to be able to create
dependencies that span maps (although feel free to discuss further).
And we already know that it is a challenge to resolve invalid
dependencies through manipulating poll order.  Those things aside - how
are you using them? - what's your polling dependency story?

 Feel free to respond to the list if you would like others to view and
comment or feel free to just respond directly to me.

Regards,
Adrian Ferrier
aferrier at alpha.ipswitch.com
WhatsUp Development Manager, R&D
Ipswitch, Inc.


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