On 7 Apr 2007, at 15:47, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:27:14 +0200, Nicholas Shanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:AFAIK browsers and other HTML clients don't currently treat these as comments, [...]Well, sorry to say, you got your facts wrong.
*sigh*I guess that means we're already down the hole. Can we at least stop digging? Even you must (begrudgingly?) admit that "comments" formatted as in your original post are not backwards compatible, even if they do reflect the state of modern UAs as you say. In light of this, I suggest instead acknowledging that UA developers will need to support it in quirks mode, but instruct authors not to use this syntax. Some dire warning about future revocation and ice caps melting might help us here.
Of course, the quickest way to get authors to do that would be to fix this bug in WinIE, but I don't think Microsoft higher-ups would allow that. :-/
On 7 Apr 2007, at 14:00, Kornel Lesiński wrote:
HTML5 is not an application of SGML and I think it has been proven by now that it doesn't make sense to keep pretending it is (see story about SGML comment in Acid2).
Yeah, I'm aware of that, the vendor complaints and subsequent change in Hixie's stance. I was careful in my previous post not to say "compatible with" or "application of" but use "conversion to" for exactly this reason. I don't believe I am 'pretending' anything. Just stating that diverging further from SGML for No Good Reason is pointless. (And yes, supporting a few odd websites that do this already counts as not a Good Reason, websites can always be fixed!)
But also I think the scope of the original Acid2 furore was different, it was a case of dropping adherence to the SGML compatible syntax:
<!-- first comment --
-- another comment -->
to something more like: token("<!--"); CDATA; token("-->")
On a related matter, does anyone know if WinIE correctly supports
comments inside tags other than those that begin "<!--" ?
e.g:
<!DOCTYPE html [
<!ENTITY nbhy CDATA "‑" -- non-breaking hyphen -->
]>
<object
foo="bar" -- this does foobar stuff --
bish="bosh" -- this hits people over the head --
bash="bush" -- this elects a democrat --
>
- Nicholas.
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